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Interstellar 2 - My God, it's full of SPOILERS


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I'd be rather more surprised if someone hadn't got that 2001 vibe from it.

Indeed. I expected Coop to say “My God, it’s full of stars” when he entered the singularity.

Is there a list somewhere?

1. Music: Empty fifths play on church organ

2. The bots looked like the monolith

3. Rotating space station docking porn

4. Man sits and stares into computer screen to contact people back home

5. Psychedelic space travel/timeywimey special effects seen from the person in the space suit.

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I took my sister to see it, and I kinda liked it the second time.

I wanted to get in a 3rd viewing to confirm my feelings.

I enjoyed Interstellar the first time I saw it but its definitely better with repeated viewings. The second time I saw it the parts that didn't quite make sense to me the first time either clicked or I just kinda accepted that there was no real answer to it. I did find some of the dialogue to be a bit cheesy but idk overall I kinda really liked Interstellar. I'm a sucker for sci fi to be fair and McConaughey has been my hero since True Detective/The Lincoln Commercials so I could be biased.

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I've watched this movie yesterday. I see the discussion has been dead for some days now, but I'm going to ask:



If I undestand it correctly, the reason why Earth was becoming uninhabitable was the blight, which was causing crop failures and atmosphere poisoning, right? Well, how does moving to another planet help the humankind? Either they can isolate at least part of the crops back on Earth, so the blight doesn't infect them - in quaranteened greenhouses or something of that kind - and then they can stay home.... or they can't control the spreading at all, the blight gets everywhere, which means they are likely to bring the infected seeds with them to the new planet and in the end all that changes is that everyone will die on this new planet...? Don't tell me it wouldn't be easierr to build life-supporting complexes on Earth instead of attempting to evacuate a tiny percentage of humans elsewhere, where they would live locked in cages their entire life anyway?


I guess they wanted to be original and not make this into a thousandth movie about an asteroid impact.



Then there's the black hole paradox that makes even less sense, but I'm not getting into that. They should have kept the aliens-did-it explanation as much as I hated the first time I heard it.


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I've watched this movie yesterday. I see the discussion has been dead for some days now, but I'm going to ask:

If I undestand it correctly, the reason why Earth was becoming uninhabitable was the blight, which was causing crop failures and atmosphere poisoning, right? Well, how does moving to another planet help the humankind? Either they can isolate at least part of the crops back on Earth, so the blight doesn't infect them - in quaranteened greenhouses or something of that kind - and then they can stay home.... or they can't control the spreading at all, the blight gets everywhere, which means they are likely to bring the infected seeds with them to the new planet and in the end all that changes is that everyone will die on this new planet...? Don't tell me it wouldn't be easierr to build life-supporting complexes on Earth instead of attempting to evacuate a tiny percentage of humans elsewhere, where they would live locked in cages their entire life anyway?

I guess they wanted to be original and not make this into a thousandth movie about an asteroid impact.

Then there's the black hole paradox that makes even less sense, but I'm not getting into that. They should have kept the aliens-did-it explanation as much as I hated the first time I heard it.

Yeah, the Blight thing was probably my main gripe with the premise (as well as the thoroughly artificial societal dynamics on Doomed Earth - "we have no armies any more!" ORLY? - though that's also partly a drawback of the Blight as a badly-thought-out concept). Would have much preferred to see a threat to the planet itself, rather than a "durr we can't even deal with hostile organisms on our own planet so let's try again on a new one".

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I've watched this movie yesterday. I see the discussion has been dead for some days now, but I'm going to ask:

If I undestand it correctly, the reason why Earth was becoming uninhabitable was the blight, which was causing crop failures and atmosphere poisoning, right? Well, how does moving to another planet help the humankind? Either they can isolate at least part of the crops back on Earth, so the blight doesn't infect them - in quaranteened greenhouses or something of that kind - and then they can stay home.... or they can't control the spreading at all, the blight gets everywhere, which means they are likely to bring the infected seeds with them to the new planet and in the end all that changes is that everyone will die on this new planet...? Don't tell me it wouldn't be easierr to build life-supporting complexes on Earth instead of attempting to evacuate a tiny percentage of humans elsewhere, where they would live locked in cages their entire life anyway?

I guess they wanted to be original and not make this into a thousandth movie about an asteroid impact.

Then there's the black hole paradox that makes even less sense, but I'm not getting into that. They should have kept the aliens-did-it explanation as much as I hated the first time I heard it.

Yeah, those are really the two things that I didn't like about the film. The Blight seems like a half-baked plot device to give the characters a reason to seek out another planet and then gets forgotten, and the black hole basically solves every problem because luv or something.

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Cut everything in the tesseract. Also, it was weird how the main conflict of the movie (worth risking the mission to save the existing people on earth) is dropped really, really abruptly since they, when actually pressed, immediately say "no" and go for plan b. Now that could be an interesting point, but we all know that going into the black hole will be the answer even if the characters dont, so that decision is basically elided over.

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I finally saw this last night. My ears are still recovering. So LOUD.



I actually liked the plot and dialogue. Even the part at the end. I'm a sucker for reunion-on-deathbed scenes, I guess, because me and the random woman sitting next to me started crying at the same time.



The only part I found predictable was the part where Matt Damon's planet turned out to be a dead end. Hathaway's character going off on that rant about the power of love wouldn't have convinced me much, but as a viewer I had a bad feeling about Damon's planet as soon as I heard about the continuous data and as soon as I saw the wrecked AI I instantly knew they were at a dead end. Even so, I enjoyed the craziness of Matt Damon and the visuals of the planet.



Minor nitpicking: For some reason leading up to this I didn't know that Kip Thorne was a consultant, but once I saw the credits I knew why I had the feeling through the whole movie that they had a really good physics consultant and didn't think through the planetary surface science at all in comparison. The blight- I got the idea that corn was the only crop that could survive...but they were more concerned about not being able to breathe due to O2 running out, despite trees still being able to survive (see the forest that they drove through on the way to NASA) and probably nothing happening to phytoplankton? Meh. Also, the waves on the first planet....I had big problems with those. They were unrealistic for something that was tidally generated (no evidence that the planet was spinning that fast) and they couldn't have both moved that quickly AND not broken. Waves don't move that fast in shallow water. (And yes, I know there was a lot more water behind the wave, but "shallow water" for the purposes of waves is considered <1/20 of the wavelength, and that was a long wave.)


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I finally saw this last night. My ears are still recovering. So LOUD.

I actually liked the plot and dialogue. Even the part at the end. I'm a sucker for reunion-on-deathbed scenes, I guess, because me and the random woman sitting next to me started crying at the same time.

The only part I found predictable was the part where Matt Damon's planet turned out to be a dead end. Hathaway's character going off on that rant about the power of love wouldn't have convinced me much, but as a viewer I had a bad feeling about Damon's planet as soon as I heard about the continuous data and as soon as I saw the wrecked AI I instantly knew they were at a dead end. Even so, I enjoyed the craziness of Matt Damon and the visuals of the planet.

Minor nitpicking: For some reason leading up to this I didn't know that Kip Thorne was a consultant, but once I saw the credits I knew why I had the feeling through the whole movie that they had a really good physics consultant and didn't think through the planetary surface science at all in comparison. The blight- I got the idea that corn was the only crop that could survive...but they were more concerned about not being able to breathe due to O2 running out, despite trees still being able to survive (see the forest that they drove through on the way to NASA) and probably nothing happening to phytoplankton? Meh. Also, the waves on the first planet....I had big problems with those. They were unrealistic for something that was tidally generated (no evidence that the planet was spinning that fast) and they couldn't have both moved that quickly AND not broken. Waves don't move that fast in shallow water. (And yes, I know there was a lot more water behind the wave, but "shallow water" for the purposes of waves is considered <1/20 of the wavelength, and that was a long wave.)

Technically corn was just the last staple crop to fall to the blight. By the time of the film, it's the only one left (hence why everyone is growing it) and like half the harvests fail anyway (hence why they need so many farmers). And as they explain to Cooper, corn will succumb completely to the blight too according to all their tests. It's coming soon (and Cooper's son sees that happening when he's all grown up)

The rest is, well, whatever. You could say the blight would out-O2->N2 the rest of the biosphere and it would work but ultimately it doesn't really matter.

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Technically corn was just the last staple crop to fall to the blight. By the time of the film, it's the only one left (hence why everyone is growing it) and like half the harvests fail anyway (hence why they need so many farmers). And as they explain to Cooper, corn will succumb completely to the blight too according to all their tests. It's coming soon (and Cooper's son sees that happening when he's all grown up)

The rest is, well, whatever. You could say the blight would out-O2->N2 the rest of the biosphere and it would work but ultimately it doesn't really matter.

Fair enough. You only ever see them eating corn, even in space, so I kind of wondered also how everyone wasn't just incredibly unhealthy due to malnutrition.

Did you catch the explanation for the waves? I have been thinking about them since last night. I should probably just read the Science of Interstellar book.

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Fair enough. You only ever see them eating corn, even in space, so I kind of wondered also how everyone wasn't just incredibly unhealthy due to malnutrition.

Did you catch the explanation for the waves? I have been thinking about them since last night. I should probably just read the Science of Interstellar book.

There wasn't much of one. "Tidal forces" was about it.

Epic visual though.

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Yeah, it was a pretty badass wave. The idea of it reminded me of the fire wave in the book Player of Games. Or is there another sci-fi movie or book that involves a periodic giant wave? (Not a tsunami.)


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Yeah, it was a pretty badass wave. The idea of it reminded me of the fire wave in the book Player of Games. Or is there another sci-fi movie or book that involves a periodic giant wave? (Not a tsunami.)

Chronicles of Riddick?

:p

But seriously, it does have an encroaching fire-wave due to the planet being too close to it's sun.

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