Rant & Rave Season 8 [Spoilers]: When you are cool like a cucumber, as evil as the mother of madness, but never as perfect as the pet!

[Count Balerion]

Dany was mean to the slavers. Will no one weep for Kraznys?

There's a Dragon video on the new Netflix show. I haven't seen it yet.

[SeanF]

6 hours ago, Count Balerion said:

Dany was mean to the slavers. Will no one weep for Kraznys?

There's a Dragon video on the new Netflix show. I haven't seen it yet.

Do you remember how we used to discuss what could be the worst possible endings for the show?

Such as the Others being about to rape Sansa, only for Arya to warg into a giant eagle to rescue her?

Or Jaime revealing to Jon that he was his father, as he lay dying?

Or Jon leading an army of ewoks to rescue Winterfell?

Or Sansa begging Tyrion to forgive her for not having loved him?

And, none of them were as bad as what we got.

[Count Balerion]

Arya warging an eagle would have been EPIC!

And, speaking of Arya, here's an interesting titbit:

 

[BlackLightning]

When I saw this, I almost cried.

[Angel Eyes]

On 7/28/2020 at 11:23 AM, Angel Eyes said:

You can possibly blame that on Benioff; he worked on Troy and they toned down a lot of the supernatural elements in that film.

Put it this way @BlackLightning; in the Iliad (the source for Troy, which Benioff wrote the screenplay for), the Olympian Gods are sitting on the sidelines, picking sides and favoring champions; they’re completely absent in the film. Achilles’ mother Thetis is a minor goddess herself in the original mythology, but is downgraded to an eccentric who believes herself a water goddess. I could say more but I’d rather not go into a rather sensitive topic.

[Count Balerion]

Not much new here; but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eJLWPfS754

Boonioff's wife is amusing. I didn't know he *had* a wife. No comment!

[Angel Eyes]

Question about Season 7: So Sansa tells Jon not to negotiate with Daenerys, right? Now did she honestly think the North could have handled the White Walkers (let's forget Arya going all Air Jordan on the Night King) all by themselves, with two Valyrian Steel swords being the only thing that could beat the White Walkers?

[SeanF]

12 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said:

Question about Season 7: So Sansa tells Jon not to negotiate with Daenerys, right? Now did she honestly think the North could have handled the White Walkers (let's forget Arya going all Air Jordan on the Night King) all by themselves, with two Valyrian Steel swords being the only thing that could beat the White Walkers?

Well, the White Walkers turned out to be unable to get through the Wall, until un-Viserion burned it down, which made the previous 66 episodes pointless. 

Still, assuming they could get through the Wall, perhaps Sansa was prescient.  She knew that Arya would would reappear and spring out of a tree on top of the Night King.

It's another thing that makes no sense.  As is the fact that none of them even gave any thought to the terms of a treaty with Daenerys.  If they wanted to preserve their independence, Jon ought to have been offering a deal.  Recognition of Daenerys, South of the Neck, in return for recognition of Northern independence. A mutual alliance against the Dead and against Cersei.  Instead, Jon demanded military aid and recognition of independence.  That's in contrast to Yara, who asked for independence, and offered something in return ( a fleet).

[Angel Eyes]

6 minutes ago, SeanF said:

Well, the White Walkers turned out to be unable to get through the Wall, until un-Viserion burned it down, which made the previous 66 episodes pointless. 

Still, assuming they could get through the Wall, perhaps Sansa was prescient.  She knew that Arya would would reappear and spring out of a tree on top of the Night King.

It's another thing that makes no sense.  As is the fact that none of them even gave any thought to the terms of a treaty with Daenerys.  If they wanted to preserve their independence, Jon ought to have been offering a deal.  Recognition of Daenerys, South of the Neck, in return for recognition of Northern independence. A mutual alliance against the Dead and against Cersei.  Instead, Jon demanded military aid and recognition of independence.  That's in contrast to Yara, who asked for independence, and offered something in return ( a fleet).

Well Sansa's no 3ER. Otherwise she could have headed off Ramsay and Littlefinger a lot earlier.

Makes sense. A lot of these things run on reciprocity (as I learned in anthropology class).

[Le Cygne]

And... Just seeing that Diana Rigg passed away. She was much too good for this show.

 

[Count Balerion]

RIP Diana Riggs. I had no notion she was that old. Still too young.

[Count Balerion]

And: sansa is the smartest person Arya knows; Arya knows everything; ergo, Sansa knows MORE than everything.

[Angel Eyes]

1 minute ago, Count Balerion said:

And: sansa is the smartest person Arya knows; Arya knows everything; ergo, Sansa knows MORE than everything.

Arya doesn’t know many smart people.

[Ser Drewy]

15 hours ago, Angel Eyes said:

Arya doesn’t know many smart people.

In a Game of Thrones script, everyone's dumb. 

[Prince of the North]

52 minutes ago, Ser Drewy said:

In a Game of Thrones script, everyone's dumb. 

Well...until the plot calls for them to be considered "smart" for some completely unearned "characterization" 

[Lady Fevre Dream]

I've had it on my mind to pop in lately (sometimes when I do I never manage to get around to making a post, LOL, as life will distract me) but I think, on top of just having things on my mind that lead me to think of ASOIAF and some of GOT as gods awful as it could be, Diana Rigg deserves a shout out.  It's not her fault the Ds fell in love with the Queen of Thorns and her snark.  I did like her Olenna, I would have enjoyed seeing more of her as written, too.

https://www.insider.com/game-of-thrones-cast-and-crew-tribute-diana-rigg-death-2020-9

#RIPDianaRigg

She was a beauty that kicked ass in The Avengers in her youth.  I grew up on those old reruns, and did not begrudge my ex's obvious infatuation with her.  I'm cool like that, LOL 

 

[Count Balerion]

It's true, the Snarks aren't very smart. Although the dumbest is smarter than Tyrion the Morion. Dinklage is quite amusing on the subject. "They're hiding in the CRYPTS, where the DEAD people are! So BLEAH!" (If I quoted that already, I apologise.)

[Le Cygne]

16 hours ago, Lady Fevre Dream said:

I've had it on my mind to pop in lately (sometimes when I do I never manage to get around to making a post, LOL, as life will distract me) but I think, on top of just having things on my mind that lead me to think of ASOIAF and some of GOT as gods awful as it could be, Diana Rigg deserves a shout out.  It's not her fault the Ds fell in love with the Queen of Thorns and her snark.  I did like her Olenna, I would have enjoyed seeing more of her as written, too.

https://www.insider.com/game-of-thrones-cast-and-crew-tribute-diana-rigg-death-2020-9

#RIPDianaRigg

She was a beauty that kicked ass in The Avengers in her youth.  I grew up on those old reruns, and did not begrudge my ex's obvious infatuation with her.  I'm cool like that, LOL 

 

She was lovely, and a wonderful actor. She was a good choice for GRRM's Olenna! Maybe people who only know her from GoT will look her up in other, better things.

[Angel Eyes]

27 minutes ago, Le Cygne said:

She was lovely, and a wonderful actor. She was a good choice for GRRM's Olenna! Maybe people who only know her from GoT will look her up in other, better things.

I mainly remember her from On Her Majesty's Secret Service as Teresa "Tracy" Bond, the only woman James Bond married.

[SeanF]

18 hours ago, Le Cygne said:

She was lovely, and a wonderful actor. She was a good choice for GRRM's Olenna! Maybe people who only know her from GoT will look her up in other, better things.

D & D didn't deserve the actors they got.