Jussi Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 4:30 PM, Ran said: How is Abercrombie doing over there? I can see Kijarva published a translation of The Blade Itself, but can't see if they've published any others. I forgot to answer your question. Kirjava translated all three books in the First Law trilogy, but very slowly. The Blade Itself was published in Finnish in 2009, Before They Are Hanged in 2013, and Last Argument of Kings in December 2019, ten years after TBI! Perhaps the books sold poorly, and that was the reason for slow publishing schedule. I don't know. Another Finnish publisher Jalava translated Abercrombie's YA trilogy - all three volumes of the Shattered Sea were released in 2016. I don't know how well they sold. Abercrombie's books have never hit bestseller lists in Finland. There also haven't been paperback editions or second printings. I wonder if we will ever get a new Finnish translation from Abercrombie. Ran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 29, 2020 Share Posted December 29, 2020 It’s been a year and a half since the manuscript was turned in... any word on a publication date for The Thorn of Emberlain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) On 12/29/2020 at 10:03 PM, Ser Scot A Ellison said: It’s been a year and a half since the manuscript was turned in... any word on a publication date for The Thorn of Emberlain? Nope. I asked Scott if there was any news a couple of months back and did not get a reply. Edited December 31, 2020 by Werthead Vaughn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 The manuscript obviously didn't pass muster and the editorial notes probably forced him to go back to the drawing board. Let's hope that the book will be published in 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Lord Patrek said: The manuscript obviously didn't pass muster and the editorial notes probably forced him to go back to the drawing board. Let's hope that the book will be published in 2021. I wouldn't leap to that conclusion. We know from the Republic of Thieves iteration of this cycle that Scott's major stumbling block seems to be rewriting and revisions and that's where his mental health issues seems to cause problems. Given he had a personally horrible 2020 plus the muted reception to RoT probably making him want to make this book a lot stronger, and you have the recipe for much greater prevarication and delays. Luckily the series (so far) has been relatively episodic, so I'm filing it under "check it out whenever it comes out" rather than "waiting for release with bated breath". Edited December 31, 2020 by Werthead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Lynch is a bestselling author for both Bantam Spectra and Gollancz. Anne and Gillian likely got back to him with their editorial notes within the span of a couple of weeks. Given that this was 18 months ago and no pub date has been announced in the meantime means that there was a lot of work to be done to make the book everything it was meant to be. Sure 2020 in general and Scott's personal problems didn't help. But such a long delay also implies that there were issues with the quality of the novel that postponed its release. For me, it's still a title that I'll be reading as soon as I get my hands on it. And we should probably thank his editors for accepting nothing less than his best effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Werthead said: Nope. I asked Scott if there was any news a couple of months back and did not get a reply. Thank you. I figured the worst thing we could hear is “nope”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Lynch is a bestselling author for both Bantam Spectra and Gollancz. Anne and Gillian likely got back to him with their editorial notes within the span of a couple of weeks. Given that this was 18 months ago and no pub date has been announced in the meantime means that there was a lot of work to be done to make the book everything it was meant to be. Sure 2020 in general and Scott's personal problems didn't help. But such a long delay also implies that there were issues with the quality of the novel that postponed its release. For me, it's still a title that I'll be reading as soon as I get my hands on it. And we should probably thank his editors for accepting nothing less than his best effort. Oh, I’m right there with you. I’m realy excited to get to the “meat” of the larger story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerol Posted January 1, 2021 Author Share Posted January 1, 2021 Wow, 18 months. At this rate I expect to have a copy of Winds of Winter before this and yes, I am serious. Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 Well, contrary to GRRM, Lynch turned in a complete manuscript. It's just a question that there appears to be a lot of work to be done to bring it up to par. Granted, 18 months is a long time, but we can only hope that the final edit is coming soon and we might get the book before the end of the year. Some people have wondered if the manuscript was turned in just so he could receive the money owed to him. It is a legitimate question, I suppose. The advance from a book deal usually comes in 3 installments: When you sign the contract, when the manuscript is turned in, and lastly when the novel is published. In any event, I'm confident we'll be getting this new Lynch book in 2021. Or at least I hope we will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Well, contrary to GRRM, Lynch turned in a complete manuscript. It's just a question that there appears to be a lot of work to be done to bring it up to par. Granted, 18 months is a long time, but we can only hope that the final edit is coming soon and we might get the book before the end of the year. Some people have wondered if the manuscript was turned in just so he could receive the money owed to him. It is a legitimate question, I suppose. The advance from a book deal usually comes in 3 installments: When you sign the contract, when the manuscript is turned in, and lastly when the novel is published. In any event, I'm confident we'll be getting this new Lynch book in 2021. Or at least I hope we will! How long does it take a book to be printed and in readers hands from the point when the manuscript is copy edited and completed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Garlan the Gallant said: How long does it take a book to be printed and in readers hands from the point when the manuscript is copy edited and completed? Usually 8 to 12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garlan the Gallant Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, Lord Patrek said: Usually 8 to 12 months. So at the latest if copyedits aren't done by end of April it won't be coming out this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Probably not. Unless the book is already on Gollancz's production line, but we'd have heard about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argonath Diver Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I'm excited for the book, even if it takes another year or so. It makes it a bit more likely to have a successful Summon Author roll when the time comes. I'm sure he finds it a lot more fun here when we're all frantically discussing what atrocities he's submitting Locke and Jean to this time, instead of peeking over his fence all the time, wondering when he'll mow his yard. Sorry, Scott, for what it's worth, and we'll be waiting at the pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 14 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Usually 8 to 12 months. To be fair though Dance with Dragons took two and a half between the final revisions coming in and publication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 hours ago, polishgenius said: To be fair though Dance with Dragons took two and a half between the final revisions coming in and publication. I think they can expedite things like that for a book they expect to be a big seller, but that might not apply here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Yes, and Robert Jordan's A Crown of Swords was completed in a hotel room and hit the shelves 6 weeks later. But GRRM and RJ were sure number 1 bestsellers on the NYT list, and as such they're the exceptions, not the norm. We can always hope that Lynch will receive the same treatment, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 22 hours ago, Lord Patrek said: Usually 8 to 12 months. Unless you're Tor Books, when it might be 6 weeks and it might be 3 years depending on how the company is melting down today. Although Scott's publishers aren't Tor Books, so that's not really a factor. I know Gollancz regard Scott as a reasonable priority so they won't sit on it for a long time once it's done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted January 3, 2021 Share Posted January 3, 2021 All true, of course. But it's been 18 months. For all we know, Scott might be close to the end, or even done by now. It could be that the copy editor at Gollancz is going through the manuscript as we speak. Or like Rothfuss, it might be that Scott is still working on it and there is no end in sight. Time will tell. Madame deVenoge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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