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Lord of Oop North Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Quote Yes, he nearly lost that one. Now we learn that some 200,000 mail-in votes were never counted. We also know some aboriginal communities didn't even have a polling station. I don't recall Trudeau talking about covid restrictions at all. Election turnout in 2021 was down compared to 2015 and 2019, but above average for 21st century elections. https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=med&dir=pre&document=sep2921&lang=e https://www.google.com/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/8225563/canada-election-voter-turnout-covid/amp/ Quote Turnout was down from 67 per cent in 2019 and 68.3 per cent in 2015 but it was still better than four of the previous seven federal elections held in Canada since the turn of the century. If you don't remember them talking about COVID restrictions then you weren't listening at all. The Liberals, NDP and the Bloc all supported vaccine mandates. These parties make up the majority of Canada by far. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6180018 Quote The parties are split over the issues of vaccine passports and mandatory vaccination. The Liberals favour both measures, while the Conservatives — who support vaccination and alternatives like rapid testing — are rejecting them. Quote The matter of vaccine mandates and passports drew protesters to King-Vaughan last month. Raucous protests trailed Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau during a visit to a bakery in Nobleton, Ont., and then led to the cancellation of a party event in Bolton, just outside the riding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Oop North Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/canada/article-conservatives-request-immediate-probe-into-deletion-of-government/ Quote Mr. Trudeau has made his party’s proposed vaccine mandate a key issue in the federal election campaign. The policy would apply to federal civil servants, federally regulated industries and travellers on domestic planes, buses, trains and cruise ships. It was announced by the government two days before Mr. Trudeau called a snap election on Sunday. But I guess he didn't talk about restrictions at all? What are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Lord of Oop North said: I don't believe the majority of people there are insurrectionists, but some of the leaders, organizers and high profile members certainly are. People like Tamara Lich, BJ Lichter and Pat King are all people involved with separatism or white nationalism. Canada Unity, a group associated with the Convoy, have called for the Senate to dissolve the government. If the Convoy participants want to be taken seriously, they need to publically disavow these people. Some trucker convoy organizers have history of white nationalism, racism It is amazing that people criticize Trudeau for not meeting with them, when the Convoy leadership are calling for the undemocratic dissolution of the government. How can we expect our leadership to treat with people with that sort of demand? It is ridiculous to give it the time of day. We already had a democratic referendum on COVID restrictions. It was called the 2021 Federal election. The vaccine mandates were a topic during the Federal election, and it is pretty clear that the people decided to continue with the current government, knowing full well their intentions regarding COVID-19 vaccine mandates, and other restrictions. It's not just the leaders, aside from the seen instances of them harassing and assaulting homeless shelters, women's shelters, people wearing masks, ambulances, all sorts of people just being straight up afraid to leave their homes, etc. If you pay attention to their chat rooms, I've been in a couple and seen threads by others of a couple, it's just a constant barrage of bigotry and stupidity. Racism, sexism, transphobia, islamaphobia, antisemitism. You name it they've got it. At best when one of the more overt bigots isn't there they'll talk about how that person sucks, but there's no confronting it. Also they're stupid, they're really fucking stupid. (which translates to dangerous given they keep storing gas and propane together in a really stupid way and the police haven't been taking that nearly seriously enough. Last I checked they had actually dealt with it after several instances of "the propane tanks have been remove" "no they haven't, here's a picture they're still there." but it highlights the kid gloves approach when a significant explosive hazard is being treated like no big deal) Here's one of the people following the chats if you're interested. (This thread is today's, you can go through her twitter to find the last few days) But while we should understand that even without their leaders they would still be a bunch of bigoted fucks, that doesn't mean we should ignore said leaders. People wanna say the flags were isolated event quickly dealt with? Chris Barber like his flags. Pat King also seems to be more concerned you appease the media and hide them, rather than you know Nazis showing up. (probably because he is one) Oh and in one final "they're just fucking stupid" piece of news. A bunch of them are convinced they can call/email the Governor General and "vote no confidence." As if it wasn't very very clear with all the Americanisms they've been throwing around they have no idea how our government works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 This thread is the wildest thing to happen in Canadian politics for decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Happening now: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Nobody's masked . . . . But hey, crypto is the answer to everything. They can exist in full freedumb on Meta, YAY! That's the real pandemic, it seems, reaching from Russia to the UK, to the USA and now Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 It’s wild. Good thing I’m doing Zen things, but it’s a workout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 This is Toronto right now: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzbprdgrKv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Is this Canada’s version of 1/6? Or just the Candian version of the stupid Trump flag truck trains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Nah, just birdy messing up the privacy setting for her house warming party on facebook. I guess I better run for cover now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Gads, what a miserable situation for the businesses and residents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 15 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Is this Canada’s version of 1/6? Or just the Candian version of the stupid Trump flag truck trains? So far nobody has stormed the Capital Building and all the confederate flags were sent packing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Is this Canada’s version of 1/6? Or just the Candian version of the stupid Trump flag truck trains? Kind of both? They *want* to overthrow the government, and indeed have occasionally called this Canada's Jan 6th, but they're also really stupid and have no idea how to go about actually doing that. So all they can really do is be assholes to the people of Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynnS Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Zorral said: Nobody's masked . . . . But hey, crypto is the answer to everything. They can exist in full freedumb on Meta, YAY! That's the real pandemic, it seems, reaching from Russia to the UK, to the USA and now Canada. Yah, you can disagree with that. But clearly these people aren't neo-nazis and racists or whatever else has been thrown at them hoping something would stick. That was the dumbest thing to say. They could have been gone by now but Trudeau had to shoot his stupid mouth off before he ran away . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Oop North Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, LynnS said: They could have been gone by now but Trudeau had to shoot his stupid mouth off before he ran away . So Trudeau should have responded to people calling for him to end all public health measures and dissolve the government? You think that they would have dispersed if he talked to them and just said no, sorry? Speaking to people that demand the democratic government of our country be dissolved is the wrong move. Governor General's office inundated by protest supporters demanding the PM be fired Quote The callers are participants and supporters of the so-called “freedom convoy” that has been occupying the streets around Parliament for a week, demanding that the Trudeau government put an end to all public heath measures (even though the majority of them are under the provincial government’s purview.) Last week, organizers also published a manifesto billed a “memorandum of understanding” demanding that the Governor General and the Senate unite to force all levels of government to end any COVID-19 measures and vaccine passports, and re-instate all workers laid off due to vaccine requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, LynnS said: neo-nazis and racists Many Canadians who are there say, Yes! They are all those things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord of Oop North Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 The organizers of this convoy movement - people like Tamara Lich, Pat King, James Bauder, Benjamin Dichter - are all confusing civic and community responsibility with oppression. None of these people have experienced oppression in their fucking life. In fact, they have publically spoken about preserving Anglo-Saxon bloodlines, white race replacement, Political Islamic conspiracies, 'plandemic', 9/11 & mosque attacks being false flag ops, calling for the PM to be tried for treason etc. All of that can be found all over their social media accounts. It is not hidden. The bullshit those people spout is an embarrassment. Those people are an embarrassment. If they want to be taken more seriously by the government, they should disavow those organizers and not have them speaking for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, LynnS said: This is Toronto right now: https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1ZkKzbprdgrKv Interesting that the “Fuck Trudeau” flags are in the same color as Trump flags. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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