Heartofice Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 16 minutes ago, Consigliere said: I can only guess who Rangnick might have been referring to. Maybe some have left already, but I'd also include Ronaldo, Martial, Van de Beek, Dalot, Wan Bissaka and De Gea. Obviously Fred and McTominay would need replacing down the line too as they are incredibly unsuited to the type of football Ten Hag wants to implement. On paper those all look like great players. Part of me still thinks with the right structure around them they could do a lot better. Even Fred has looked good at points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Don’t Forest have a shirt sponsor? You don’t see that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 It says a lot about where VDB is that the manager who gave him his break in the first place is not only not starting him but leaving him on the bench and bringing on Scott McTominay when he needs someone to grasp some control of the midfield. Fred and McTominay are both absolutely fine for what they are but neither of them is either a defensive midfielder nor a great passer (Fred obviously better there than McTominay). They'd do fine with a dedicated DM behind them letting them go box-to-box and shuttle the ball about, but in our case especially now you'd still want that role to be filled by an out-and-out passer. Both will do well when they eventually move on, probably to Everton and West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Heartofice said: On paper those all look like great players. Part of me still thinks with the right structure around them they could do a lot better. Even Fred has looked good at points. Yeah, and this comes back to the point I made about a much more serious issue at United that goes beyond just making a signing or two. The current crop of players should be performing much better but the attitude and commitment of this squad stinks. They can't be arsed to even do the bare minimum i.e. matching the work rate of the opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, Spockydog said: You forgot PJ4. Not really because Jones is a non factor. He doesn't even play any more than a handful of games anyway. Besides, he's so horribly injury prone that he's become unsellable. Nobody even wants to take a chance on him on loan. United can only wait until his contract runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 In other news, all sunshine at Mbappe FC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Shredder must be back and up to no good again! McTurtle obviously had that on his mind as well as the burden of running a football club. Perfectly understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, polishgenius said: In other news, all sunshine at Mbappe FC. And that's the guy they put in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Piss-poor penalty by Rice. This is not West Ham's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Imagine giving Henderson the boot in favour of a washed up De Gea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mexal Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Consigliere said: Yeah, and this comes back to the point I made about a much more serious issue at United that goes beyond just making a signing or two. The current crop of players should be performing much better but the attitude and commitment of this squad stinks. They can't be arsed to even do the bare minimum i.e. matching the work rate of the opponent. It's what Arsenal had to do. You need to clean it out, reset the culture and build the squad based on a plan, looking for certain players who have qualities that match the system you want to play. That's the only way you'll get consistency. I don't know EtH's system but I know Arteta's would never work without the right technical players in the right spots and years of working in it. They fired Emery cause he had no set plan or vision and it turned out to be the right move for the long term. It's just not a quick fix and as we've seen with Arsenal, will take many transfer windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 Uff, has visiting football games with those temperatures always been kinda draining, or am I just getting old? Anyway, 3-0. Another points at fucking Hansa Rostock would lighten my mood immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Arteta cleaned house. And the eighteen players that remained last January were left in no doubt that they were the manager's guys. The boss comes across really well in AoN, and I have no doubt that these kids will run through walls for him. I think we've hit the jackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Forest did really well today. I think they'll be okay this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted August 14, 2022 Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 So their Bundesliga shopping spree paid out? (4 players if I am not mistaken: Niakhate (Mainz), Richards (Bayern), Mangala (Stuttgart), Awoniyi (Union)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Suck it Spurs! 1-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Great goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I don't like Loftus-Cheek as a winger. He moves well and is a technical player but for some reason he often hesitates taking direct crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Heartofice said: On paper those all look like great players. Part of me still thinks with the right structure around them they could do a lot better. Even Fred has looked good at points. While nobody really knows why he's a starter.when we have better players available, Fred does well playing for Brazil- in a shocking turn of events, turns out Casemiro is a better central midfield partner than McTominay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon the Leaner Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I don't know if Chelsea are going to implode but they are looking good by bet for an implosion would rather be on Spurs, in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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