KingAerys_II Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 There was no need to modify Galadriel character, she doen't need to prove she is the strongest, she already is . Finrod joined the company of Beren and Luthien, they were allowed to marry each other if Beren takes one of the Silmarils owned by Morgoth , who put the three gems in his crown. Finrod , who was an elf king decides to help the couple , before being captured he lost a song battle against Sauron, who captured the Company except Luthien, who was an elf princess. Finrod lost his life protecting Beren , he fought a werewolf and killed the monster with his bare hands , that's how Finrod died. I think Rop writers are arrogant activists that believe to be better than Tolkien, just because they embraced a certain culture that wold make them superior . There is no way to fix the tv series, the characters are changed , there was no need to change characters written by the best writer of fantasy novels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, KingAerys_II said: There was no need to modify Galadriel character, she doen't need to prove she is the strongest, she already is . Finrod joined the company of Beren and Luthien, they were allowed to marry each other if Beren takes one of the Silmarils owned by Morgoth , who put the three gems in his crown. Finrod , who was an elf king decides to help the couple , before being captured he lost a song battle against Sauron, who captured the Company except Luthien, who was an elf princess. Finrod lost his life protecting Beren , he fought a werewolf and killed the monster with his bare hands , that's how Finrod died. I think Rop writers are arrogant activists that believe to be better than Tolkien, just because they embraced a certain culture that wold make them superior . There is no way to fix the tv series, the characters are changed , there was no need to change characters written by the best writer of fantasy novels. They altered Finrod’s death… didn’t they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAFrelatedusername Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: They altered Finrod’s death… didn’t they? Pretty much. Finrod getting branded with Sauron's sigil a sketch of Mordor, that would guide Morgoth's servants to gather and rebuilt there, and his body being taken to Galadriel conflicts with the Silmarillion's version of events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 8 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: They altered Finrod’s death… didn’t they? If I am not wrong, tv series Finrod dies during The War of Wrath, instead Finrod dies fighting a werewolf at the time of Beren and Luthien, Beren and Luthien lived before the War of Wrath , Finrod was the king of the Nargothrond. Then Galadriel should be already married to Celeborn during the creation of the rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 7 hours ago, ASOIAFrelatedusername said: Pretty much. Finrod getting branded with Sauron's sigil a sketch of Mordor, that would guide Morgoth's servants to gather and rebuilt there, and his body being taken to Galadriel conflicts with the Silmarillion's version of events. The show writers don’t have the rights to The Silmarillion, so unless Finrod’s death is described in thr LotR appendicss, the Tolkein estate would get sued for describing his death as it happened in Thr Silmarillion (unless they got permission from thr estate) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAFrelatedusername Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) If you want to have a laugh https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2024/01/18/117474-spy-report-the-rings-of-power-season-2-to-expand-on-sauron-in-huge-new-ways/ https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2024/01/18/117354-spy-report-suggests-an-unhinged-season-2-of-the-rings-of-power/ 3 hours ago, Derfel Cadarn said: The show writers don’t have the rights to The Silmarillion, so unless Finrod’s death is described in thr LotR appendicss, the Tolkein estate would get sued for describing his death as it happened in Thr Silmarillion (unless they got permission from thr estate) They could have just not included that scene, especially since it doesn't make any sense. Or they could have had Galadriel finding Finrod's grave. Edited January 19 by ASOIAFrelatedusername Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) 2 hours ago, ASOIAFrelatedusername said: If you want to have a laugh https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2024/01/18/117474-spy-report-the-rings-of-power-season-2-to-expand-on-sauron-in-huge-new-ways/ https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2024/01/18/117354-spy-report-suggests-an-unhinged-season-2-of-the-rings-of-power/ They could have just not included that scene, especially since it doesn't make any sense. Or they could have had Galadriel finding Finrod's grave. This part made me laugh out loud: Quote The pair, as Bombadil and Goldberry, are serving out a punishment from Mandos per “a long-held fan theory” (Editor: this [b]“long-held fan theory” is news to us.).[/b] Eta: I hate every one of these potential leaks but they sound accurate to what we've seen so yes, I believe them. How many episodes is this supposed to be? Its a lot of ground to cover even without at least 2 standalones. Edited January 19 by HexMachina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 39 minutes ago, HexMachina said: This part made me laugh out loud: Eta: I hate every one of these potential leaks but they sound accurate to what we've seen so yes, I believe them. How many episodes is this supposed to be? Its a lot of ground to cover even without at least 2 standalones. I’ve been a Tolkien fan for 43 years. I’ve never, in my entire life, read a “fan theory” that Bombidal and Goldberry were banished to their lands by Mandos… What… the… actual… fuck? Corvinus85 and Lord of Oop North 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 5 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I’ve been a Tolkien fan for 43 years. I’ve never, in my entire life, read a “fan theory” that Bombidal and Goldberry were banished to their lands by Mandos… What… the… actual… fuck? That one is so hilariously stupid I'm actually all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, Slurktan said: That one is so hilariously stupid I'm actually all for it. It’s worse than described… Quote “Tom Bombadil and Goldberry are in an episode. They are played by the same actor and actress as Melkor/Morgoth and Ungoliant. The show will confirm the long-held fan theory that Tom and Goldberry are Melkor and Ungoliant serving out their punishment bestowed on them by Mandos.“ No… no… no… no… just fucking… NO! Durckad, fionwe1987 and The hairy bear 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurktan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: It’s worse than described… No… no… no… no… just fucking… NO! Oh I read that, that's what I'm all for. Its already a shit show just embrace the nonsense. Lord of Oop North, AncalagonTheBlack, Corvinus85 and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Maybe Tom took Grogu's ball one too many times was was banished by Mando? Corvinus85, Durckad, fionwe1987 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 8 minutes ago, Slurktan said: Oh I read that, that's what I'm all for. Its already a shit show just embrace the nonsense. The asshat show defenders will try to claims that nutfilled horseshit is… canon. Just… no. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAFrelatedusername Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Remember a good chunk of the leak is from 4chan, so there is a distinct chance that someone is trolling. However even the stuff that is coming directly from TORn is bad. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Ungoliant ate herself, instead Morgoth is kept captive in the Void, what's this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAerys_II Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Galadriel is married to Celeborn, Finrod was long dead at the time of the rings, he was probably buried in the Nargothrond,where he was a king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 This is so bad its come around to be funny again and I'm cackling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxus Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 (edited) Quote “Tom Bombadil and Goldberry are in an episode. They are played by the same actor and actress as Melkor/Morgoth and Ungoliant. The show will confirm the long-held fan theory that Tom and Goldberry are Melkor and Ungoliant serving out their punishment bestowed on them by Mandos.“ Do they offer any insight into why Melkor takes the ring, has a laugh and then returns it? Edited January 19 by baxus Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 10 minutes ago, baxus said: Do they offer an insight as to why Melkor takes the ring, has a laugh and then returns it? Of course not. This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen. baxus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Whomever came out with the Tom Bombadil theory clearly never read LOTR, not even a decent summary of it. Likely a drunk guy at a rave told this person the story, and being drunk themselves proceeded to start theorizing and post it online. On Finrod, the only thing in the LOTR Appendices about his fate is that he died saving Beren's life. No details given. But they couldn't even do that, since they haven't bothered with Beren yet. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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