polishgenius Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 8 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: Are QAnon crazies and MAGA Heads theocrats? I wouldn't call them such. Trump is a cult of personality. It will die when he does. Trump is a cult of personality being used by the theocrats. That's why he appointed two judges to change the balance of the Supreme Court, and it immediately overturned Roe vs Wade. Ser Scot A Ellison and Prince of the North 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Türkiye is experiencing major turmoil in its airspace as flights headed to Iraq and Iran have diverted and requested landings at Turkish airports, which they were not expecting. Jordan's military has said it will engage any targets in its airspace without permission, with the suggestion it will engage either Iranian or Israeli weapons in its airspace. So far Iranian drones have only been directed over Iraqi territory. The first launches took place 1 hour and 10 minutes ago, still 40+ minutes from Israeli territory. Looks like they haven't reached Syrian airspace yet. Some claims of missile launches from Iran, but these appear to be stock footage. Also videos of Patriot and/or Iron Dome firing, but again stock footage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) Amy Coney Barrett is a weird religious kook by American standards. But to pretend she is the Ayatollah is just absurd. It is perfectly reasonable to disagree about abortion, even to have a religious reason for doing so. Edited April 13 by Jace, Extat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Apparently Israeli aircraft have entered Syrian airspace on interception missions against the incoming drones, which are still in Iraqi airspace. Despite repeated reports on social media, no sign so far of a Yemeni component to the attack from US or allied forces in the Red Sea. Tears of Lys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: Amy Coney Barrett is a weird religious kook by American standards. But to pretend she is the Ayatollah is just absurd. It is perfectly reasonable to disagree about abortion, even to have a religious reason for doing so. Amy Coney Barrett is a symptom of the problem, not the actual problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: Are QAnon crazies and MAGA Heads theocrats? I wouldn't call them such. Trump is a cult of personality. It will die when he does. The freakin' white christian nationalist dominionist -- some of whom are on the SCOTUS. Where the eff have you been? They are all right out there blathering about making this nation a xtian nationalist state and if you don't think they'll massacre and have inquisitions, you are in lalalaland. They were here before rumpististo and they'll still be here when he's dead. But in between a whole buncha of us will have already been dead. Coz like murdoch and the ilks,s these guys do no die, they just keep dribbling their poison and their minions keep lickin' it up. Edited April 13 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Some reports that some drones may have entered Jordanian airspace. Lebanon and Israel have confirmed full closure of their airspaces. US estimates that the first drones could reach Israeli airspace in around 30-40 minutes from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 17 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Amy Coney Barrett is a symptom of the problem, not the actual problem. 2 minutes ago, Zorral said: The freakin' white christian nationalist dominionist -- some of whom are on the SCOTUS. Where the eff have you been? They are all right out there blathering about making this nation a xtian nationalist state and if you don't think they'll massacre and have inquisitions, you are in lalalaland. Yeah, but no. Not really. C'mon, guys. Yes, there are extreme political actors in U.S.A., some of whom are religiously driven. But they are outnumbered by some quantity in the population and have little chance of enacting national policy that can threaten the entire world. Their own creature, as you call Trump, did nothing to forward some Theocratic America Dream if you accept that reasonable people can differ about abortion. It's different in Iran. 6 minutes ago, Werthead said: Some reports that some drones may have entered Jordanian airspace. Lebanon and Israel have confirmed full closure of their airspaces. US estimates that the first drones could reach Israeli airspace in around 30-40 minutes from now. Just ate an edible, should be kicking in right about then. Hoping to just see some fireworks as the drones (hopefully just the drones) are intercepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 10 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: But they are outnumbered by some quantity in the population The population that is more and more disenfranchised with each passing day and has no power and is barely allowed to vote if their skin is on the darker side? The powerless population? And not now but just you wait and watch Mango use the US military against its own citizens. Hell, the way the police is already militarised and free to shoot and kill people w/ no consequence, you’re one executive order away from the armed forces being used against people peacefully protesting. And who’s gonna say no? The most zealot and corrupt SCOTUS ever? 10 minutes ago, Jace, Extat said: and have little chance of enacting national policy that can threaten the entire world This sounds incredibly naive or misinformed to me, but maybe I’m just too cynical. Prince of the North 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) Jordan has declared a state of emergency. Egypt has mobilised its own air defences, possibly to shoot down anything that overshoots Israel towards their territory. The Egyptian government has apparently contacted both the governments of Israel and Iran to urge restraint. It appears cruise missiles may now be in the air. Unconfirmed reports of ballistic. Now some reports by allied ships in the Red Sea that Houthi missiles and drones are in the air and Hezbollah fire on the border regions has stepped up. Edited April 13 by Werthead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Is the above tweet gone? And what is "state of agency"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) US aircraft and ground AA has shot down multiple Iranian drones and missiles over Iraq, the US government is now confirming. Israeli air warnings now sounding in the Golan Heights, as anticipated, as well as Nevatim and Dimona in the centre-south of the country and Eilat on the south coast. The Iranian mission to the UN has tweeted that Iran is carrying out a single attack on Israel in accordance with the UN charter allowing nations to engage in self defence. Iran has claimed the consulate in Damascus as its sovereign soil. It states the current action will not be repeated as long as Israel does not respond. There seems to be scepticism over this message, which has so far not been repeated by Iranian government channels. 14 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Is the above tweet gone? And what is "state of agency"? Emergency. Autocorrect (from another proper word!?) is annoying. OSINT is deleting and updating tweets. One of the reason I follow them is that they give fairly sober analyses and try not to repost sensationalism. It's clear this is a major attack but maybe not quite as insane as some are reporting. Covering other reports, it appears that Iran has fired ballistic missiles, railguns, asteroids and multiple kaiju at Israel. Edited April 13 by Werthead Jace, Extat, Arakasi, kissdbyfire and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace, Extat Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 11 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Is the above tweet gone? And what is "state of agency"? Lol, I was sitting there like... "I've never heard of a State of Agency... but Wert is a trusted source. It must be very serious!" That gummy has definitely kicked in. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 5 minutes ago, Werthead said: Covering other reports, it appears that Iran has fired ballistic missiles, railguns, asteroids and multiple kaiju at Israel. Asteroids? I better hope this is just the name of a ballistic weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Just now, A Horse Named Stranger said: Asteroids? I better hope this is just the name of a ballistic weapon. Asteroids is an issue for you but not Kaiju? Prince of the North, Derfel Cadarn, Corvinus85 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 1 minute ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Asteroids? I better hope this is just the name of a ballistic weapon. No, that's a reference to the fact that the absolute noise of bullshit on Twitter is insane. Some of the utter crap people are posting is far beyond ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 12 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Asteroids is an issue for you but not Kaiju? What can I say, I've always been rather fond of Godzilla (while I found King Kong movies to be less exciting). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) These are not hits, this is the area where alert signals are going out, and Israel is not very conservative with those, so the entire area surrounding the estimated impact zone for each hit is saturated with warnings by internet and mobile phone. Still, several dozen impact areas appear to have been identified. So far, interestingly, no warnings yet for Tel Aviv and a lot of warnings in the southern region which is more desolate. Flares have been launched over Jerusalem. Red alert sirens going off in Jerusalem, which is unusual; attacks on central Jerusalem are usually avoided because of the mixed nature of the city, if you miss the Jewish parts of the city you can hit the Palestinian parts by accident. A reminder this is not a Palestinian attack or by local forces more aware of that sort of thing. Edited April 13 by Werthead Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 2 hours ago, polishgenius said: You literally had a guy try to stage a coup on behalf of the theocrats at the last election. It would have been on behalf of the lizard people if they supported him. Trump doesn't give two shits about religion. 2 hours ago, Jace, Extat said: Trump is a cult of personality. It will die when he does. Reaganism didn't die with him. MAGA is here for good, thankfully the salesmen and women who aren't him just don't seem to be able to capture the same flame. Jace, Extat and Zorral 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 (edited) Confirmation that UK RAF Typhoons have been deployed to help with interception duties. Unclear if they are actually over northern Israeli airspace, I'm not sure that's ever happened before. Israeli air defences over Jerusalem opened fire and destroyed several targets over the city. It was a brief flurry of activity which abruptly ended. Unconfirmed reports of air defences engaging in the Bethlehem area. The incoming targets seem to be arriving piecemeal. The Jordanian Air Force has confirmed that it has scrambled its air force and shot down "dozens" of drones over their territory. Edited April 13 by Werthead Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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