Demonblade Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 :commie: Why is he walking in circles? Is this a representation of the primitive free savage, unshackled by the chains of slavery and oppression by ancient time's despots and monarchs that would emerge with civilization, progressing into slightly less oppression in feudal societies' bondage and later capitalist wage slavery...to come to full circle as the free Socialist?Or did he have too much Vodka?My guess is the second one. :commie:(this post is just an excuse to use the cool new emoticon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
一方通行 Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 That said what I've always objected to are more extreme socialist means is using force to impose socialist ideals from above. Using government to force people to make less. To force people to live as I think they should live. To take propety by force from its current owners and giving it to people the government deems worthy. is not force used to maintain the status quo? wheres the outrage over that?or is it ok when capitalists do it? why? because they are (for the moment) winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. X Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 What's that I hear? The sound of marching feet, :commie: :rofl: Oh, that is the most mesmerizing smiley I've seen in some time.It has a strange allure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebla Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 This thread reminds me of of back in the mid 80's when MTV pretended the Soviets had taken over and they had been renamed MTV-ski. They now showed shows like "I Love Boris" and all news was approved by the PARTY.I now go to stand in line for my beet rations, COMRADES!:commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKassi Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 is not force used to maintain the status quo? wheres the outrage over that?or is it ok when capitalists do it? why? because they are (for the moment) winning? Blaming the status quo on capitalists contains just as many logical missteps as blaming the status quo on socialists. There are no capitalists in the congress or the senate. There is one socialist. He and his non-existent counterparts have no responsibility for our bastardized compromise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 best smiley ever.where's his drum, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurble Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 I haven't read this thread but:I'm sure real honest-to-Marx communism will be possible someday. The hard part is obviously you need a police state to take and redistribute wealth on the large scale needed, at least temporarily. Past that, you need to have a government willing to divest itself of its powers (impossible, but another revolution could solve that), and then after that's settled, and you have a democratic society of absolute peers, you need to set up an industrial-commercial system that responds adequately to consumer needs. The answer is clearly AI's who govern for us, and predict all of our needs to prevent shortages. In fact, I predict the 21st century will be a century of capitalism, but the 22nd century will the century of Robot Communism!From each according to its computational abilities, to each according to its average electrical-consumption needs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mord Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Ser Scot,I think there are some things that simply shouldn't be up to "the people" to determine. For an extreme example, if a Constitutional Amendment were passed that said all children were to be removed from their parents homes and raised by the State I'd be voting with my feet. What's hard about private property is that voting with your feet, if it were abolished Constitutionally, is simply conceding.Emphasis mine.Insofar as what you mean by the bolded part is "there are some things that I'd simply rather weren't up to 'the people' to determine," then I agree with you. We may possibly disagree on which things we'd rather, but I think we'd tend to agree more than disagree.However, insofar as what you mean by that part is "there is a Definite Moral Law, which, putting some things before the 'the people' to determine contravenes," then I'm going to have to ask: who says such a law exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horza Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Today just got awesome. :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mord Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Ser Scot,What I worry about is that if such a movement were to grow would it be seen as a threat to the existing power structure and would "the People" and by extension "the Government" take steps to shut such refusniks down?I hope they wouldn't. Certainly, I don't think there would be any need for them so to do. Of course, it would also be virtually impossible to win a battle of resistance against them, if they decided that's what they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Mord Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Stego,If there is anyone in the country that apply force on the people, then it is not socialism. It has been called socialism. I even believe they were trying for socialism. But it was a failed attempt.I don't know how this doesn't fall under "no true Scotsman." Who's to say what's real Socialism and who's just pretending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 This is just to cool :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broken one Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 What a relief to know that those who sent my great-grannies to hunt white bears were not true socialists! phew! :DWhy is he walking in circles? It just symbolizes his lack of ability to get anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLU-RAY Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 :commie: :bowdown: to RanThank you, O Glorious Leader. :bowdown: :bowdown:All hail Tovarisch Ran!Y'all are doing it wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Trebla,This thread reminds me of of back in the mid 80's when MTV pretended the Soviets had taken over and they had been renamed MTV-ski. They now showed shows like "I Love Boris" and all news was approved by the PARTY.Remember when MTV used to be really cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Trebla,Remember when MTV used to be really cool?MTV was cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 OMFG :stunned:Our wishes have been granted! The voice of the mob has been heard and answered! :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: :commie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Iceman of the North Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 MTV was cool?This was before you were born. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 This was before you were born. ;)You people are old. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mme Erzulie Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 :commie: I'm thinking his left leg is shorter than his right (possibly from malnourishment), which turns his attempt to march in a straight line into a circular goose chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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