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That is a good point, the book is quite loose and it's central plot feels almost secondary to displaying the idea of old gods in America and what that means. 

Unfortunately the show doesn't always do a good job of that looseness. It tries to play on its sense of mystery and the feeling like it's going somewhere. Then when you have reveals like Odin it feels very underwhelming. The show is a good adaptation of a difficult book 

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On 16/07/2017 at 7:07 PM, Channel4s-JonSnow said:

That is a good point, the book is quite loose and it's central plot feels almost secondary to displaying the idea of old gods in America and what that means. 

Unfortunately the show doesn't always do a good job of that looseness. It tries to play on its sense of mystery and the feeling like it's going somewhere. Then when you have reveals like Odin it feels very underwhelming. The show is a good adaptation of a difficult book 

I finally watched the remaining 5 episodes. Episode 4 was actually really good probably because it was a focused story. Emily Browning captured the character really well in that she has a distant "going through the motions" presence. Her character is a tricky one to work but I did find myself empathising with her despite her surface-level selfishness. A pretty effective portrayal of depression for a fantasy TV show - someone who just feels life isn't what they expected.

The other elements I'm still not entirely sure about. Mcshane and Whittle are great in their roles but I just found the main story a bit of a drag. It's a bit worrying when the adventures of deadwife and leprechaun are more engaging and enjoyable. The episode charting the life of the girl who believed in irish folk lore was also more entertaining. I think this is largely because I desperately want some form of narrative to cling onto. Maybe the show would have been better served dedicating 50% plus of each episode to charting a gods journey? The sex goddess character may have benefitted from this rather than having her story scattered throughout the series.

I also think the show was far too coy with the concept a lot of the time. Although it sort of fits with the finale with the suggestion the old gods have been holding back on their power. This doesn't really make sense to me - I think Odin should be generally lacking in power unless he's still sapping energy from sacrifices made in all the wars currently going on. Easter made sense in that it was on Easter Sunday she pulled off her move.

While I liked the multiple Jesus idea (because it also stops him from being too powerful) I felt that also was a contradiction. Wednesday spends half a minute listing all his names - yet he's just one god. Why not several in his case? I'd argue that there's probably more differences in his versions than there are between people's sense of who Jesus is. Jesus' story is the same afterall. I think it would have been more fun to actually have some versions of Jesus be new gods. It seems the power of the new gods is in rebranding and as they hint with Easter, Christianity has rebranded a lot of pagan deities. One example could have been that white european Jesus is actually Thor because the germanic tribes certainly transformed Jesus into a warrior prophet and the hammer sigil was close enough to a cross that it was easy to swap.

But I can't condemn a show only for not being exactly what I'd like it to be.

Ultimately it's an uneven show with great performances and visuals but let down by uneven pacing and focus. Hopefully they can iron some of these issues out (if they choose) for the second season.

 

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15 minutes ago, red snow said:

While I liked the multiple Jesus idea (because it also stops him from being too powerful) I felt that also was a contradiction. Wednesday spends half a minute listing all his names - yet he's just one god. Why not several in his case? I'd argue that there's probably more differences in his versions than there are between people's sense of who Jesus is. Jesus' story is the same afterall. I think it would have been more fun to actually have some versions of Jesus be new gods. It seems the power of the new gods is in rebranding and as they hint with Easter, Christianity has rebranded a lot of pagan deities. One example could have been that white european Jesus is actually Thor because the germanic tribes certainly transformed Jesus into a warrior prophet and the hammer sigil was close enough to a cross that it was easy to swap.

I dunno maybe something to do with Jesus' being a man, it's kind of his whole thing that he was the mortal son of god. Odin is a God, no mucking around.

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Shadow is Odin's son and gets some powers from that, but he isn't a God. Maybe the Jesus' are like that?

As for Odin's power, he's the American Odin, not just Odin. So presumably can't draw power from foreign conflicts.

Spoiler

The Icelandic Odin (Odin Prime?) Is doing an awful lot better than Mr Wednesday. And that Hindu(?) Goddess Mama-Ji makes reference to how well her Indian counterpart is doing.

 

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2 hours ago, The BlackBear said:

I dunno maybe something to do with Jesus' being a man, it's kind of his whole thing that he was the mortal son of god. Odin is a God, no mucking around.

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Shadow is Odin's son and gets some powers from that, but he isn't a God. Maybe the Jesus' are like that?

As for Odin's power, he's the American Odin, not just Odin. So presumably can't draw power from foreign conflicts.

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The Icelandic Odin (Odin Prime?) Is doing an awful lot better than Mr Wednesday. And that Hindu(?) Goddess Mama-Ji makes reference to how well her Indian counterpart is doing.

 

I guess it depends on which branch of christianity it is regarding whether he's just a man or god. Although there's a reason the trinity has been argued and debated since the birth of christianity.

So American Odin is pretty weak if the war has to be on his soil. He'd be ok if it was just americans involved in war abroad ;)

But I guess if there are multiple gods for multiple countries, they are actually the same as Jesus. It's just Jesus has multiple american versions of himself. Sort of makes sense now.

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Just bought the book, unlike GOT, I won't read or watch anything about the show before I finish it. So I guess I ll be back soon...

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