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  1. Widowmaker 811

    Westerlands Loot

    True. Ore to gold takes a lot of work. Production would have ceased if the foreman and the engineers at the mines were killed during the battle.
  2. Somebody else, Robert, took control of the military that were theirs. Robert occupied their keep. Stannis occupied their island fort. Tywin murdered most of the family. But that does not mean they lost the heart of the people.
  3. Widowmaker 811

    What happened to the Targaryen slaves?

    Daenys and Aenar were heroes. The Targaryens had to take the slaves with them. Otherwise, they would be picked up and enslaved. Or they will remain in Valyria and die. It was an act of goodness to save them from the approaching catastrophe. The Targaryens are special. Like the family of the biblical Lot, they were spared for a good reason.
  4. The Targaryen name will always carry “weight” and respect. The calendar uses the Targaryen conquest as the reference point. The start of civilization. No other family are their equal. Daenerys has the dragons to prove her identity and her claim. Any proof coming from Aegon will not measure up. He will be seen as a fraud.
  5. Widowmaker 811

    What are some significant differences between Robb and Jon?

    They are the same people. They serve the same purpose. They illustrate the reasons why the best laid plans go very badly because of a lack of internal discipline within the person making the decision. Jon and Robb are case studies for the failure of leadership. While they both possess some talents for fighting battles, they both also possess fatal flaws that make them unsuitable for leadership. They both failed the test of leadership. All Robb had to do was honor an oath to Walder Frey. But he was too concerned with looks. He was worried the Frey bride will not have a pleasant appearance. In other words, his future Frey bride was not going to be pretty. He rebelled against his own oaths and chose the attractive girl over the unknown girl whom he thought would be ugly. Jon had a harder test than Robb, but it was still a test that most of the boys at the wall have had to face and passed. The readers should not be swayed by Jon's support group who claim that it was an impossible test to pass. It was not. Most of the boys and men on that wall had to leave loved ones behind when they took the black. Those same loved ones left behind were put in peril by wars, famine, epidemics, wildling attacks, etc. The boys still stayed at the wall. It must not have been easy but they stayed. They put all of that behind them and dedicated themselves to the watch. They kept out of the kingdom's business and stayed neutral. Jon could not. Same decisions. Where it may differ is how they handled the reconciliation with the Freys. Robb was more diplomatic and bit his tongue. Jon would have been more aggressive towards Lothar. Lothar still wins because the lame guy will adjust his reaction to aggression in such a way that he gets what he wants. I cannot imagine Jon apologizing to Walder Frey even when the Starks are wrong. Robb is more socially graceful, Jon is more animal like, less polished. Jon is tone deaf to the concerns of those he doesn't like. But it is possible his more primal nature might have kept him from trusting Walder. Ned's youth is still an unknown. He would be worst than they were if he knowingly participated in his father's plot to unseat Aerys. Revenge-driven? Jon is the more so than Robb. Do you remember what Jon did to Janos Slynt? That was revenge. Robb was just an idiot. I never liked Jon. That boy is dark inside. He is a bag of angry emotions waiting to burst out. It came out when he killed Janos. I do not find either character appealing. Honorable? Good lord, they are the opposite of honorable. Dishonorable is more like it. That's why their own men gave them a dishonorable discharge from duty.
  6. Widowmaker 811

    Targaryen Illness

    Is it immunity or the ability to tolerate higher temperatures. Maybe they catch the infection but their bodies respond differently. Normal people react by carefully elevating body temperature to fight the invader. The Targaryen can elevate this temperature to a higher level than a normal person. High heat tolerance can make the body better able to kill off invading organisms. A temp that can harm a normal person won’t bother a Targaryen.
  7. Widowmaker 811

    The Tyrion of Fevre Dream (spoiler)

    It's complicated, the reasoning behind what York wanted to do. Vampires, for all their power, are the powerful minority surrounded by the "cattle" majority. For all of their power, the Vamps can't survive a war with the weaker humans who outnumbered them. This point was also presented in ASOIAF, the enslaved outnumber the slavers. The common folk outnumber the nobles. York has a moral angle for sure. But he also wants the survival and coexistence of both species. The Hunger enslaved his species like a vitally addictive substance might enslave a human. I am sure he also has sympathy for the "cattle" and wants them treated better. His motives are good. The allergy to daylight also kept the Vamps from making progress.
  8. Widowmaker 811

    Dany and child murder

    Prosperity allows for the majority of the people, high or low, the chances of economic security. There were long periods of peace and stability during his reign. Jaime's attempt on Bran's life was the trigger that lit the fuse. That is true. However, it was the Starks and the Lannisters who opened the door for Balon to think he had a chance. It was a Stark who provoked Cersei into action that got Robert killed. In so far as justification, one has to weigh the consequences. The consequences were so great that Catelyn should have left Tyrion alone even if it meant not getting any justice for Bran. Thousands of innocent children suffered because of that decision. For you, but not for the people living under the feudal system and not for many in this forum. There happen to be many people here who would support what Aerys did to Brandon and Rickard Stark. Robb had no way of knowing who Joff's true parents were and he had no basis to rebel against his king. The damage during the leaderships of Cersei, Jon Snow, and Joffrey are indeed mostly their own fault. Just as that is true, it is also true that the problems in Slaver's Bay are the fault of the former slavers who are actively attempting to bring back slavery. If those former slavers would just cooperate and give up on slavery, yes, the situation would be so much better.
  9. Widowmaker 811

    Who killed Jon Arryn?

    Varys doesn't know everything. He sees clues and builds a theory. It doesn't mean it's right.
  10. Widowmaker 811

    Dany and child murder

    It wasn't just a full treasury. The kingdom prospered under Aerys. And it was relatively peaceful. The War of the Five Kings happened because of the Lannister twins attempting to murder Bran and Catelyn's reaction to this. Renly and Balon just took advantage of the distraction to make their move. So no, the war was not justified. The rebellion against Aerys was started by two really awful families who were plotting against the Targaryens. Aerys had every right to execute Brandon and Rickard. Robert was old enough to be part of this conspiracy to dethrone the Targaryens. The kingdom itself was in a very good place under Aerys Targaryen's reign. Jon Snow did start a fight with the Boltons. His attempts to take Arya (who he thought was Arya) away from Ramsay is an attack on the Boltons. Letting Mance Rayder go unpunished because he liked and needed the man was a grave insult to justice when you consider what Jon did to Slynt for a minor offense. What Slynt did was very, very minor when compared to Mance Rayder's crimes. Jon sends this criminal to get his sister, for the express purpose of sending her overseas, away from Ramsay. That is an attack and a declaration of war against the Boltons. The problem in Meereen is caused by the former slave-owning class who want to bring back slavery. Dany is a much, much better leader than Cersei, Robb, Jon Snow, and Joffrey. Stopping slavery is a much larger fight than anything those other leaders have faced.
  11. Widowmaker 811

    Jon Snow and Julius Caesar

    Jon is a failure. Julius was not.
  12. Widowmaker 811

    Dany and child murder

    Westeros has gone downhill since the death of King Aerys II. The kingdom had a full treasury when Aerys died. The Baratheons and Jon Arryn drove the kingdom into debt. Tywin's kids and the Starks started a war that lasted longer than Robert's Rebellion and most likely killed more people. Balon rebelled again and took the north. Lord Commander Jon Snow started a fight with the warden of the north over a sister and let the wildlings through the wall. The Martells are plotting to take down the Lannisters. Manderly is plotting to rebel against Roose. It never got this bad when the Targaryens were in power. Daenerys ruling Westeros would be the best thing that can happen to that kingdom. The Starks, Baratheons, and Lannisters have proven, they are not up to the task. Wanting to take back the kingdom that is hers by right is no different at all from the Starks wanting to take back Winterfell.
  13. Widowmaker 811

    Foreshadowing the end of house stark

    Eternal summer is a wish. But the seasons must have their balance. Fire, which is life is balanced by Ice, which is death. Light and dark exists together. Winter destroys so that life can begin anew. The old make way for the young. The old are killed (Jon Arryn, Robert, Ned, Tywin, Balon, Catelyn, Pycelle) in order to make way for the next generation of leaders.
  14. Widowmaker 811

    An Evil Name

    It could very well have been exactly the same. They struck a pact with the white walkers in exchange for dominion over the north.
  15. Widowmaker 811

    An Evil Name

    Yes. He was doing something terrible based on his belief of it being necessary. Like Mellissandre trying to barbecue the little bastards of Robert's. It may have worked or maybe it was all for nothing. I can see Jon crossing over to the dark side if he believes the Lannisters and the Freys killed his sisters. He has a vengeful nature and he might freely choose to become the new NK.