sj4iy Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Their putting their discomfort over your necessity to feed your child is pretty damn selfish tbh. And what's with this 'keep children away from boobies' thing, seriously.It's bizarre, young children aren't even socialised to view breasts as purely sexual yet anyway. My daughter would play baby with her dolls and put them up to her chest because that's what she saw me do with her little brother, and of course she didn't think anything of it at all...but my grandma flipped out XD I breastfed my daughter for 6 months and then had to switch to formula because I got incredibly sick and required medicine that would have been dangerous for her, so I've been on both sides of the aisle. Every woman should be free to make the choice that fits their family best, and people shouldn't judge them for the choice they do make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awesome possum Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Also, do you really feel the need to insult someone's intelligence in every post? Only when the post I'm replying to insults the intelligence of people with actual common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Lock your doors shutter your windows, the matriarchy hunts tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 you made it clear in your post that 'in this day and age' people should just pump. Obviously you didn't realise this is not so easy for everyone. Thus making you ignorant. /shrug. Yeah, but give the man credit, he acknowledged he was wrong. It does make me feel a bit unfcomfortable, that's just the society in which I was raised (and it's not really any sexual thing, it's just that... well, we don't put boobs on display). But I don't really care, and just politely don't stare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smegma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I breastfed for 10 months with zero problems, but for whatever reason I couldn't pump at all, nor should a woman be required to do so. Breastfeeding in public is a normal and natural, but for me personally I always wanted to be in private because it made me more comfortable. It was always easy to find a room where I could go feed in solitude and quiet, and it made the experience more pleasant for all involved. But if I have plenty of friends that feed in front of me and in public and while it's not my absolute favorite thing to watch, I strongly support their right to do so. That being said, I do have some breastfeeding friends that are almost belligerent in their desire to make breastfeeding acceptable anywhere, such as keeping their breasts out in Denny's so their five-year-olds can take it whenever they want. I mean, literally sitting there with their bare breasts on the table - I just don't see how this kind of behavior is going to help change minds towards it because people that are against it will use these extreme examples to validate their bias against it. Also, I feel conflicted about this demonizing the sexualization of the breast. I love my breasts as a part of my sexuality, and I don't feel that it's wrong to do so, but a lot of people make me feel like I'm anti-feminist for feeling this way and not viewing them as purely functional. I just personally feel like they are both sexual and functional, and I personally don't find it difficult to reconcile these two things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UVA Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Lock your doors shutter your windows, the matriarchy hunts tonight!Just for this comment E Ro I wish your local La Leche League kidnaps you and makes you sit through a meeting.About this topic, though, I've been adamant about my ability to feed my children where/when I needed to. I did try to be as discreet as possible when breastfeeding in public -- more so for me and the baby and in a way that didn't inconvenience me, e.g., I wouldn't breast feed in a closet. I bf my third child the longest (3.5 years) and toward the end was self-conscious of bfing in public knowing that extended bfing is atypical in the US. He was then only bfing in the morning and at bedtime so it wasn't really an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah, but give the man credit, he acknowledged he was wrong. It does make me feel a bit unfcomfortable, that's just the society in which I was raised (and it's not really any sexual thing, it's just that... well, we don't put boobs on display). But I don't really care, and just politely don't stare.Scotcat's not a he.Breastfeeding in Scotland's very rare I think, or it's done very discreetly. Thet could be why Scotcat's not too comfortable with it - there might be a cultural 'thing' about it up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smegma Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 The only reason I can think off for breast feeding to not be seen as "normal" in public is during the 50s and 60s formula became the norm. Yeah my brother and I were both bottle-fed and when I decided to breastfeed my mother was completely aghast - it was just not what you did when you had babies in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. I love that more and more mothers are returning to breastfeeding. But I do abhor the women that shame others when they decide on formula - maybe they couldn't latch, maybe there's a medication issue, or maybe they have their mothers that insist that formula is the way to go - whatever the reason, it's great and vital to educate so that more and more breastfeed, but absolutely shameful that they'd tear down those that don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Of House Hill Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Lock your doors shutter your windows, the matriarchy hunts tonight! Since you said that, I think that in your case, maybe you should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 dunno why y'all can't keep the little rotters stuffed up in there until they can fend for themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinDonner Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Scotcat's not a he.Breastfeeding in Scotland's very rare I think, or it's done very discreetly. Thet could be why Scotcat's not too comfortable with it - there might be a cultural 'thing' about it up north.Maybe if it was deep-fried? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotcat Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Thank you, Derfel Cadarn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Ro Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Just for this comment E Ro I wish your local La Leche League kidnaps you and makes you sit through a meeting.Hahaha, I have no idea what la leche is but that sounds absolutely terrifying. I really did learn my lesson here though. I was wrong and now I am making every effort to appear contrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillio Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Under Australian Law, Breastfeeding is a Right, and discrimination against someone breastfeeding is a contravention of the Sex Discrimination Act Linky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah my brother and I were both bottle-fed and when I decided to breastfeed my mother was completely aghast - it was just not what you did when you had babies in the 50's, 60's, and 70's. I love that more and more mothers are returning to breastfeeding. But I do abhor the women that shame others when they decide on formula - maybe they couldn't latch, maybe there's a medication issue, or maybe they have their mothers that insist that formula is the way to go - whatever the reason, it's great and vital to educate so that more and more breastfeed, but absolutely shameful that they'd tear down those that don't. While I agree whole-heartedly that the right to breastfeed anywhere should be protected, women should base their decision on how to feed their infant on actual evidence rather than hype: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/02/27/breast_feeding_study_benefits_of_breast_over_bottle_have_been_exaggerated.html Apparently the only statistically significant change in childrens' health from breastfeeding is an increased incidence of athsma. Also, breastmilk is not organic, as most human mothers have been exposed to the same 50,000 synthetic chemicals as everyone else in modern society. If breastfeeding is causing weight loss, furthermore, the infant is recieving any fat-soluable impurities and heavy metals as the mother's fat stores are depleted by the caloric drain. After the immune benefit of the colostrum is passed to the newborn, the main benefit of breastfeeding is emotional bonding and the cost-savings of not buying formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Her study seem to mostly use social outcome measures such as reading, obesity, forming good relationships, academic achievement etc. rather than medical benefits, both long term and short term of breast milk over formula. I'm trying to pull up the full study, but I can't seem to find it. You'll find plenty of evidence supporting breast milk over formula if you go looking, especially on websites such as Up2date and cochrane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weeping Sore Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Her study seem to mostly use social outcome measures such as reading, obesity, forming good relationships, academic achievement etc. rather than medical benefits, both long term and short term of breast milk over formula. I'm trying to pull up the full study, but I can't seem to find it. You'll find plenty of evidence supporting breast milk over formula if you go looking, especially on websites such as Up2date and cochrane. This study tries to suss out breastfeeding as a factor independant from other demographics by comparing breastfed & non-breastfed siblings (in the same household): “Many previous studies suffer from selection bias. They either do not or cannot statistically control for factors such as race, age, family income, mother’s employment—things we know that can affect both breast-feeding and health outcomes.” ... "When children fed differently within the same family were compared—those discordant sibling pairs—there was no statistically significant difference in any of the measures, except for asthma. Children who were breast-fed were at a higher risk for asthma than children who drank formula" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyanna Stark Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 I never said it was wrong to breast feed.Am I a prude that's uncomfortable with that kind of thing? Yes. That's my feeling and I am entitled to it. I would never berate a woman for choosing to breast feed in public - that is her choice.Not everyone in the world is a fan of breast feeding or comfortable around it. I am not a bad person and I do not appreciate being called ignorant & no where in my post was I rude to anyone. Maybe you should try that sometime? It was ignorant since you think people can just pump already. 1. Not everyone can pump2. Not all children will take the bottle I did not call you rude either. I called you ignorant. Which you were. You made assumptions which were faulty and jumped to conclusions regarding how it works to breastfeed, what is involved in it and the mechanics around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theda Baratheon Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yeah, but give the man credit, he acknowledged he was wrong. It does make me feel a bit unfcomfortable, that's just the society in which I was raised (and it's not really any sexual thing, it's just that... well, we don't put boobs on display). But I don't really care, and just politely don't stare.I'm not being purposefully hostile, just pointing out ignorance is being uninformed. Thus lyanna calling out someone on ignorance isn't necessarily being nasty.I don't really see many people breastfeed here at all, but every mother should have the choice of breastfeeding in public or private or using formula despite what others may think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 WS,So, if BF is no different from formula why should it be prohibitied in public? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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