chuck norris 42 Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I am really confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arya_underfoot Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Hyperbole?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Because Netanyahu is an arsehole. He's suspended diplomatic relations too. I never thought I'd say this, but good on Murray McCully. He's a nasty, corrupt little arsehole too, but for once our Foreign Affairs Minister has actually done the country proud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Netanyahu wants an Israeli homeland covering the ancient lands of Israel. He wants the remaining descendants of the erstwhile Ottoman Empire who happen to occupy that same territory today, and who for political reasons call themselves Palestinians, despite no Palestinian state ever having existed in the region in the past, to be removed from this territory and to join their brethren in neighbouring countries. If that makes him an arsehole, well, so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datepalm Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Remarkably, every part of that is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darzin Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Free Northman Reborn said: Netanyahu wants an Israeli homeland covering the ancient lands of Israel. He wants the remaining descendants of the erstwhile Ottoman Empire who happen to occupy that same territory today, and who for political reasons call themselves Palestinians, despite no Palestinian state ever having existed in the region in the past, to be removed from this territory and to join their brethren in neighbouring countries. If that makes him an arsehole, well, so be it. Do you think they should go? If so why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryk Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 His behavior is like that of a petulant child. Him and Trump together are going to be a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Datepalm said: Remarkably, every part of that is wrong. DP, I'd love for you to elaborate on why that is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKitttenGuard Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 2 hours ago, Free Northman Reborn said: Netanyahu wants an Israeli homeland covering the ancient lands of Israel. He wants the remaining descendants of the erstwhile Ottoman Empire who happen to occupy that same territory today, and who for political reasons call themselves Palestinians, despite no Palestinian state ever having existed in the region in the past, to be removed from this territory and to join their brethren in neighbouring countries. If that makes him an arsehole, well, so be it. Netanyahu most likely does not Israel in its "Ancient Lands". He wants East Jerusalem and Strategic areas that will most likely make a Palestine State impossible. He set up a Political Coalition that most likely wants the "Ancient Lands" and he has to deal with that. In addition in the U.S you have the strongest "Allies" being those who want a restoration of "Ancient Lands". In addition you have nearly a very high land of indifference torwards the Palestinians from several leaders in both major parties. Netanyahu is more a simple Political creature but he is not a fanatic though plenty of his "Allies" are. Yes wanting to commit Genocide is a great sign of a asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerenthaClone Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Because Israel's current government is one that sees the smallest hint of reproach as, instead, a sign of perfidy and betrayal. They're constantly screaming that the sky is falling. They're the drunk guy at the bar who responds to "hey man, not cool, maybe you could back off a bit" with "FUCK YOU I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT" and then punches a random stranger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck norris 42 Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 3 hours ago, Free Northman Reborn said: Netanyahu wants an Israeli homeland covering the ancient lands of Israel. He wants the remaining descendants of the erstwhile Ottoman Empire who happen to occupy that same territory today, and who for political reasons call themselves Palestinians, despite no Palestinian state ever having existed in the region in the past, to be removed from this territory and to join their brethren in neighbouring countries. If that makes him an arsehole, well, so be it. Should Netanyahu declare war on countries that support UN resolutions he disagrees with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 6 hours ago, Datepalm said: Remarkably, every part of that is wrong. Hee. It'd be awesome to say a bit more if you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 This resolution was one of the few occasions the US have not shielded Israel with a veto in the UN over their settlement policy. And now little Bibi is throwing a temper tantrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Slightly off topic, but does this story have any legs?: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-justice-officials-issue-update-netanyahu-probe-44447301 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Free Northman Reborn said: Netanyahu wants an Israeli homeland covering the ancient lands of Israel. He wants the remaining descendants of the erstwhile Ottoman Empire who happen to occupy that same territory today, and who for political reasons call themselves Palestinians, despite no Palestinian state ever having existed in the region in the past, to be removed from this territory and to join their brethren in neighbouring countries. If that makes him an arsehole, well, so be it. Okay, maybe I'm missing something here. But, I thought the Palestians were Arabs or maybe they are not exactly, having origins from many peoples, I am not sure, but they aren't Turks. While the Ottamans were Turks. Two different groups ethnically and linguistically. So, I am not real clear about the Palestinians being the "descendants" of the Ottomans. Nor do I understand the relevance of the point if they were in fact descendants. And I am not sure, why them not having a "state" as we think of modern states, as they came into being around the 18th Century is relevant here. Why isn't it relevant that those people have lived there for a long time? Why is them having a state even relevant? Anyone? Bueller? It seems to me this is an argument for some sort of an ethnic cleansing of a people. And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that is utterly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldGimletEye Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Leap said: First-come first-serve is a less than perfect argument for who has the right to live in X-place imo. If that's the case, much of Europe will soon be welcoming home 340M American and Canadian compatriots. And I don't think the people of Israel should have to leave their country. That wasn't the argument I was making, if you are addressing me. That said, I'm not sure what the rationale is for making the Palestinians leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Free Northman Reborn said: Netanyahu wants an Israeli homeland covering the ancient lands of Israel. He wants the remaining descendants of the erstwhile Ottoman Empire who happen to occupy that same territory today, and who for political reasons call themselves Palestinians, despite no Palestinian state ever having existed in the region in the past, to be removed from this territory and to join their brethren in neighbouring countries. If that makes him an arsehole, well, so be it. You know that the 'ancient lands of Israel' were only Israeli for a blink in time, right? The Canaanites/etc. before them and the various Levantine peoples during after the (very brief) Kingdom of Israel lived there much, much, much longer. Right? If it weren't for the Bible et al, this would be just another lost kingdom, like Deira or the Nabataeans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 54 minutes ago, OldGimletEye said: Okay, maybe I'm missing something here. But, I thought the Palestians were Arabs or maybe they are not exactly, having origins from many peoples, I am not sure, but they aren't Turks. While the Ottamans were Turks. Two different groups ethnically and linguistically. So, I am not real clear about the Palestinians being the "descendants" of the Ottomans. Nor do I understand the relevance of the point if they were in fact descendants. And I am not sure, why them not having a "state" as we think of modern states, as they came into being around the 18th Century is relevant here. Why isn't it relevant that those people have lived there for a long time? Why is them having a state even relevant? Anyone? Bueller? It seems to me this is an argument for some sort of ethnic cleansing of a people. And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that is utterly wrong. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 51 minutes ago, Leap said: First-come first-serve is a less than perfect argument for who has the right to live in X-place imo. If that's the case, much of Europe will soon be welcoming home 340M American and Canadian compatriots. Well, if the Celts all move back to their central Asia homeland, there should be lots of room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hereward Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Well, I'm in favour of the idea, despite there being no evidence that the Celts came from Central Asia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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