Zorral Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Ye latest Covid-19 thread, #41, has passed 400 comments. Let us carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 WE are past Nu tho. Greek Alphabet Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, Xi, Omicron. Next up would be. Pi, Rho, Sigma, Tau, Upsilon, Phi, Chi, Psi and finally Omega. Bolded Variants of concern. Lambda and Mu are the South American strains of interest. Curious what sort of irrational strain Pi will be. Edit: Apparently the WHO apparently left out Nu and Xi on purpose. Because Nu sounds very familar to the English New. And Xi, because it's a common name and they didn't use it, because of their anti-discrimination policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 In the previous thread (#41) today I put up a link on the way W.H.O. decided to name it Omicron. Some interesting bits in it, so I'll put the link here too. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/27/world/africa/omicron-covid-greek-alphabet.html But whatever it's called one must fear it's a disaster. If not, we'll be so glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoodedCrow Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Pi is infinitely irrational. I amend my joke to Psi Phi…for the genre:) is it a Greek house somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/532254561386262528/gHX_F_KC_bigger.png Trevor Bedford @trvrb Growth rate (in absolute terms and relative to Delta) will be become clearer in the following days, but at the moment, I believe we're looking at a variant that potentially has significant immune evasion and that appears to be spreading rapidly. 15/16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 56 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: WE are past Nu tho. It's difficult to come up with thread title puns based on omicron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 14 minutes ago, williamjm said: It's difficult to come up with thread title puns based on omicron. 'Specially since Omicron is going to be Vought's corporate space station, from whence they can more safely continue their superhero franchise bilking the earth's citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impmk2 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 So an Italian who arrived home from Mozambique on November 11 has tested positive for Omicron along with his family. That would be Europe's earliest detected case? It's certainly been circulating in Southern Africa for a while it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: WE are past Nu tho. Greek Alphabet Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, Xi, Omicron. Next up would be. Pi, Rho, Sigma, Tau, Upsilon, Phi, Chi, Psi and finally Omega. Bolded Variants of concern. Lambda and Mu are the South American strains of interest. Curious what sort of irrational strain Pi will be. Edit: Apparently the WHO apparently left out Nu and Xi on purpose. Because Nu sounds very familar to the English New. And Xi, because it's a common name and they didn't use it, because of their anti-discrimination policy. I'm guessing the president of China would not be too thrilled. They should probably drop kappa, for now at least, since it is currently a meme word. 42 minutes ago, Zorral said: 'Specially since Omicron is going to be Vought's corporate space station, from whence they can more safely continue their superhero franchise bilking the earth's citizens. When writing the season they could well have guessed that the COVID-19 strains would eventually get up to omicron. Associating one of the, possibly, more dangerous strains of a deadly pandemic virus with Vought seems quite apt, if done deliberately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: When writing the season they could well have guessed that the COVID-19 strains would eventually get up to omicron. Associating one of the, possibly, more dangerous strains of a deadly pandemic virus with Vought seems quite apt, if done deliberately. As I for one, immediately saw the Vought News Network 7 On & 7 Omicron run-downs by Cameron Coleman, it was deliberate on my part. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impmk2 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Zorral said: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/532254561386262528/gHX_F_KC_bigger.png Trevor Bedford @trvrb Growth rate (in absolute terms and relative to Delta) will be become clearer in the following days, but at the moment, I believe we're looking at a variant that potentially has significant immune evasion and that appears to be spreading rapidly. 15/16 This is an extremely interesting feed, especially the phylogenetic analysis. I was already thinking it is unlikely to have originated in the country of South Africa itself given their apparently good survillience / sequencing in the country and that this looks to have been circulating for a couple months. This gives more credence to that. Thanks for posting it! Edit: I should probably post what the phylogeny was showing given it's semi technical. The closest sequenced relative to Omicron according to this analysis is from mid-2020. Likely means it has originated from somewhere with extremely poor surveillence. Alternative hypothesis: Continued evolution in a chronically infected individual over a year or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer's right hand Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, williamjm said: It's difficult to come up with thread title puns based on omicron. Not for geeks I hope! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Well, Omicron Ascending would have been good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Omnicron sounds like a transformer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 In the meantime there are these: Quote "South African doctor says omicron variant symptoms ‘unusual but mild’" -- "It presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two not feeling well," Coetzee explained. "So far, we have detected that those infected do not suffer the loss of taste or smell. They might have a slight cough. There are no prominent symptoms. Of those infected some are currently being treated at home." https://news.yahoo.com/south-african-doctor-says-omicron-205354980.html and . . . that the omicron variant is good news! as per the pandemic of 1918 . . . https://www.reddit.com/user/wallstreeturchin/ >Spanish flu mutated in more transmissible version which was less dangerous. This is how pandemic ended. >The new variant of covid is more transmissible n much milder. This is the most bullish fucking news I have heard. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/new-strain-causes-mild-disease-says-south-african-medical-body-report-2627160 https://www.timesofisrael.com/s-african-expert-downplays-threat-from-omicron-we-wont-have-a-severe-epidemic/ >This is how pandemic ends. Everyone develops antibodies. >MOTHER NATURE at work >We should let omicron become dominant strain of virus And others have suggested Omicron was hyped to jigger the market -- somebody put calls in the millions on vaccine shares on Monday, and yesterday made billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer's right hand Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Well I remember that people said the same about delta. Hopefully it is true 1 hour ago, Zorral said: In the meantime there are these: https://news.yahoo.com/south-african-doctor-says-omicron-205354980.html and . . . that the omicron variant is good news! as per the pandemic of 1918 . . . https://www.reddit.com/user/wallstreeturchin/ >Spanish flu mutated in more transmissible version which was less dangerous. This is how pandemic ended. >The new variant of covid is more transmissible n much milder. This is the most bullish fucking news I have heard. https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/new-strain-causes-mild-disease-says-south-african-medical-body-report-2627160 https://www.timesofisrael.com/s-african-expert-downplays-threat-from-omicron-we-wont-have-a-severe-epidemic/ >This is how pandemic ends. Everyone develops antibodies. >MOTHER NATURE at work >We should let omicron become dominant strain of virus And others have suggested Omicron was hyped to jigger the market -- somebody put calls in the millions on vaccine shares on Monday, and yesterday made billions. People said the same about delta IIRC. Hopefully the optimists are right this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 6 hours ago, Luzifer's right hand said: Well I remember that people said the same about delta. Isn't Delta currently mutating itself into extinction? At least, that's what I've been reading recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 12 hours ago, williamjm said: It's difficult to come up with thread title puns based on omicron. Oh my Cron! Covid is running wild again! As someone hoping to travel to South Africa in the next few months, these developments are rather disappointing. It would be nice to think of a milder, safer but eager covid burning itself out but I don’t think we know enough about the variant or about how governments are going to react to it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toth Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Spockydog said: Isn't Delta currently mutating itself into extinction? At least, that's what I've been reading recently. Only in Japan, so it's a fairly isolated case so far. But as far as I have read it indeed happened that their version of a strain somehow broke its replication process in a way that Delta died out and only the original variant still sticks around, explaining a massive dip in case numbers (but not a complete disappearance of Covid). I'd be careful to wish for Omicron to be more transmissible than Delta. So far it looks like there is a high likelihood for it to lower the effectiveness of our vaccines, so there is a risk of endangering already vaccinated people again if it's lethality doesn't decrease like with the Spanish Flu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luzifer's right hand Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, Toth said: Only in Japan, so it's a fairly isolated case so far. But as far as I have read it indeed happened that their version of a strain somehow broke its replication process in a way that Delta died out and only the original variant still sticks around, explaining a massive dip in case numbers (but not a complete disappearance of Covid). I'd be careful to wish for Omicron to be more transmissible than Delta. So far it looks like there is a high likelihood for it to lower the effectiveness of our vaccines, so there is a risk of endangering already vaccinated people again if it's lethality doesn't decrease like with the Spanish Flu. That also suggests that Japan is pretty good at keeping delta out of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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