Winterfell is Burning Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: 8-10 games isn't representative. If the team ranked 6th doesn't qualify for a tournament with 32 teams there is clearly an issue. If 'deserve' is the criteria then increase the European and South American places so the best teams actually qualify and fuck off all the teams that get the charity spots. Well, South America already does that, where everyone plays everyone, but that's doable with only 10 nations., not with 50+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Italy didn't win their group, they didn't win their play-off game, thus they don't deserve to play at World Cup. Plain and simple. Besides, it's Qatar, so who gives a toss? And the 4th fastest Jamaican and American sprinter doesn't qualify for Olympics. It's bullshit. Sport is not about inclusion. It's about the best competing. Saudi Arabia are ranked 53rd in the world but they are going because they play against other dogshit teams in qualifying. The defending European champions missing out lowers the quality of the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 If you're not beating teams in your group & losing in a play off, you don't deserve to be at the world cup. Tis simple, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: 8-10 games isn't representative. It's not? I think it generally is, but OK. Is 12 enough? 16? 38? How are international teams going to ever play a more 'representative' number of games for a qualifying tournament? 11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: If the team ranked 6th doesn't qualify for a tournament with 32 teams there is clearly an issue. With the team ranked 6th, I'd suggest. Their ranking is too high. 11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: If 'deserve' is the criteria then increase the European and South American places so the best teams actually qualify and fuck off all the teams that get the charity spots. Harsh on England, but OK. ETA - I know it's cheap. England usually waltz through their qualifying groups. But honestly, most of us have enjoyed seeing one or other of the 'undeserving' teams do unexpectedly well at a finals in recent years. Yourself included, if memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Young Maester Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Italy needs some new strikers. Immobile never shows up when he wears the blue shirt, and Insigne was shite. In the euros it was chiesa carrying the attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Yes, they totally deserve a place. Zzzzzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 Not the first time reigning European Champions miss out on the World Cup. Denmark failed to qualify in 1994, so did the Greek in 2006. There are 55 UEFA nations. 13 of those qualify. So roughly one quarter. Those are not terrible odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Sweden is also in after beating Czech Republic. And they didn't even need to beat Italy this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Winterfell is Burning said: Sweden is also in after beating Czech Republic. And they didn't even need to beat Italy this time. Not really in. They still have to beat Poland. Northern Macedonia still has to eliminate Portugal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 That was a perfect strike. A bit trivia: Trajkovski played 4 years for Palermo and he scored against Italy on Palermo's stadium to eliminate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: There really needs to be a better way of qualifying. Some of the shite that is going and Italy miss out demeans the tournament. That being said it's pretty funny. Come on. Why should Italy or anyone have a God-given right to play at big tournaments? What were all those protests against European Super League against? (I know it's different context though but still!) Those sorts of closed shop competitions prevent the smaller nations like us to compete. And tell me, why is it worse to finish second to Germany than finish second to Switzerland like Italy did? ETA: They had the home advantage too. What else should they be given? I'd like to add that, we haven't qualified, we play Portugal who can beat us and qualify instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywin et al. Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: The defending European champions missing out lowers the quality of the tournament. Didn't they technically compete in the tournament and due to poor play fail to make the playoffs, aka the WC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, Raja said: Yes, they totally deserve a place. Zzzzzzz. I mean they were pretty comfortably the best side at the Euros so, yeah, if I were picking 32 sides to go to the World Cup I’d prefer them to be there. Having said that I’m pretty ambivalent about watching this World Cup anyway and it’s funny so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, ljkeane said: I mean they were pretty comfortably the best side at the Euros so Great. That has nothing to do with qualifying for the world cup, and the qualifying campaign which is what that tweet is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, Raja said: Great. That has nothing to do with qualifying for the world cup, and the qualifying campaign which is what that tweet is about. Great. It was a couple of years ago, I’m sure they’re still capable of playing to something like that level and most of the teams going to the World Cup aren’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Not really in. They still have to beat Poland. Northern Macedonia still has to eliminate Portugal. Oh, of course, I mean in as qualified for the next round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 A mexico win would be noice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Chile is playing exactly like a team whose best players were past their prime 4 or 5 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 USMNT have an especially poor record at the Azteca. I'm rooting for them to win or at least draw, of course, but it seems unlikely.Canada leading the group is of course delightful to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Ecuador and Uruguay are in the World.Cup- the former deserved, the latter more by default than anything else (though they have the same number of points) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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