Denam_Pavel Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 23 minutes ago, Lord Varys said: It is. People seem to forget what the concept of bastardy is - it is a slur for children born out of wedlock, or more specifically, for the child of a woman who is unmarried. That is also the case in Westeros since the mock names bestowed on noble bastards are *never* given to children born in wedlock, never mind how they look or how exceedingly unlikely it is that they were fathered by their legal father (e.g. the Footly boy born post-Tumbleton, Elaena's Viserys 'Plumm'). Children born in wedlock may in fact be the mailman's or the milkman's child ... but that doesn't make them bastards, it makes them merely not the biological child of their legal father. Marriage is the legal contract ensuring that a wife's children are the children of their husband. Now, it is imaginable that a royal or noble father gets doubt about the parentage of his son or daughter, accuses his wife of adultery, and subsequently get a ruling (or rules himself if he were the king) that his children were, in fact, illegtimate. But we never actually see that happening, although it may have happened if Ned had told Robert what Cersei told him about the parentage of his children. The only thing resembling something like that is Lucamore's children being declared bastards after he is sent to the Wall. But that's because the king and queen ruled that the marriages were never valid, not because another man fathered those children on Lucamore's wife. This does not follow with what we hear about the concept of first night. The progeny of those such nights are called bastards and are issued from married women. Alysanne only banned the practice a few decades before these events and not entirely successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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