Spare a Moment for H&M, Part 3

[Zorral]

18 hours ago, James Arryn said:

I’m not 100% sure I actually read any of them. 

One only reads Ulysses and Finnegan's Wake out loud, in a group of young lit students like oneself, during an entire long weekend, while imbibing enormous amounts of preferred alcoholic beverages (and hooking up too, when it isn't one's own turn to read).  That's how we did it in our Joyce course, in mine day, anyway!  It was fun, and we actually imbibed a great deal and figured out what was going on.

Oops, forgot to include there were other substance substantially imbibed as well on those long Bloom's Day weekends!  Ah, youth, wonderful youth!

Edited January 23, 2023 by Zorral

[Varysblackfyre321]

20 hours ago, Heartofice said:

She is the one who painted herself as a victim of targeted and racial hatred, when unfortunately it happens to every female member entering the royal family.

So you think she didn’t experience racism from the press—just old fashioned misogyny.

 

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

Now Piers Morgan, "would love" to do an interview? Wasn't he telling them they should just shut up about a week ago?

Oh, and I see Tucker Carlson had Samantha Markle Grant on his show to bash her (half) sister. Lovely. 

ETA: Morgan, Carlson, Clarkson; I'll give you one guess who employs all of these assholes. 

Edited January 26, 2023 by Deadlines? What Deadlines?

[Zorral]

It's been extraordinarily disheartening to witness elsewhere, and particularly on this board, MM subjected to a specific form of sexism directed to Black women: misogynoir, as it’s called.

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

Sometimes it ain't so subtle.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/world/uk-independence-party-suspends-leaders-girlfriend-over-meghan-markle-remarks/wcm/a92ce555-2668-4a91-8a7a-d28922c2db0e

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

5 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Sometimes it ain't so subtle.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/world/uk-independence-party-suspends-leaders-girlfriend-over-meghan-markle-remarks/wcm/a92ce555-2668-4a91-8a7a-d28922c2db0e

Hey now, those clear and obvious racist and xenophobic remarks were taken "out of context."

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

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Edited January 27, 2023 by Deadlines? What Deadlines?

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

10 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

Hey now, those clear and obvious racist and xenophobic remarks were taken "out of context."

Her problem was that she said the quiet part out loud, you see.

also,

 

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

16 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

Her problem was that she said the quiet part out loud, you see.

I'd argue she just said the already out loud part way too fucking loud. 

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

Brilliant.

 

[BigFatCoward]

Charles is apparently trying to still have him involved in the Coronation.  Those chats will be fun. 

[Liffguard]

I have absolutely no love for either of them, but they're not wrong about the UK press, which is by far the most vicious and toxic in the western world, and that includes the "respectable" papers and broadcasters, not just the tabloids. It's a tiny incestuous social group with a narrow range of self-serving values, and their entire MO can be summed up as "if you are a public figure you play ball with us or you only have yourself to blame for the campaign we will unleash against you." Is the venom directed at Meghan Markle motivated by misogyny and racism? Absolutely, yes, but those arenot the only reasons. As much as anything, she's an outsider who apparently refused to play ball.

Edited January 30, 2023 by Liffguard

[Fragile Bird]

3 hours ago, Liffguard said:

I have absolutely no love for either of them, but they're not wrong about the UK press, which is by far the most vicious and toxic in the western world, and that includes the "respectable" papers and broadcasters, not just the tabloids. It's a tiny incestuous social group with a narrow range of self-serving values, and their entire MO can be summed up as "if you are a public figure you play ball with us or you only have yourself to blame for the campaign we will unleash against you." Is the venom directed at Meghan Markle motivated by misogyny and racism? Absolutely, yes, but those arenot the only reasons. As much as anything, she's an outsider who apparently refused to play ball.

There are files at the National Enquirer that give the British tabloids a run for their money, I think. Ask Tiger Woods, who, frankly, I’m not sure I sympathize with, although after seeing a documentary about his upbringing, I’m not surprised he turned out the way he did.

[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

53 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

There are files at the National Enquirer that give the British tabloids a run for their money, I think. Ask Tiger Woods, who, frankly, I’m not sure I sympathize with, although after seeing a documentary about his upbringing, I’m not surprised he turned out the way he did.

His parents really turned him into a robot. 

The worst part was probably how they dumped his HS sweetheart considering that may have been the only normal relationship in his life and he was so happy.

[Fragile Bird]

56 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

His parents really turned him into a robot. 

The worst part was probably how they dumped his HS sweetheart considering that may have been the only normal relationship in his life and he was so happy.

The interviews with his HS sweetheart in the documentary were so very sad. That letter his parents made him write…

Edited January 30, 2023 by Fragile Bird
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[Mr. Chatywin et al.]

38 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

The interviews with his HS sweetheart in the documentary were so very sad. That letter his parents made him write…

I'm not certain he even wrote it, but regardless, they dumped her, not him. 

Two other things from the doc that were shocking is his dad would make him sit outside of rooms while he was clearly cheating on his mom, and she got her revenge by burying him in an unmarked grave in the middle of nowhere. 

Healthy family dynamics! 

Edited January 30, 2023 by Tywin et al.

[Wade1865]

Now I need to watch this doc.

[Fragile Bird]

1 hour ago, Wade1865 said:

Now I need to watch this doc.

I saw it a few weeks ago on HBO. I think it was an HBO Sports production. Two parts. Ends just after his Masters win, iirc.

[Wade1865]

5 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

I saw it a few weeks ago on HBO. I think it was an HBO Sports production. Two parts. Ends just after his Masters win, iirc.

Fragile Bird -- just looked and found them, thanks! I'm curious how it'll compare with Andrew Tate's family relationships.

Incidentally, my Asian mother is a neighbor and friend of another Asian mother who is a friend of Tiger's Asian mother, hahaha. They're all from the same era, share the same background, and married American GIs.

[Deadlines? What Deadlines?]

21 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

There are files at the National Enquirer that give the British tabloids a run for their money, I think. Ask Tiger Woods, who, frankly, I’m not sure I sympathize with, although after seeing a documentary about his upbringing, I’m not surprised he turned out the way he did.

The difference is that papers like enquirer have little to no influence. The English tabloids do.