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That's right nothing bad has ever happened in any of our lives, nothing at all like relentless abuse and beatings by parents, murder, suicided, nearly living on the streets, so ill one nearly died, being robbed, being raped, nope, nothing bad has happened to any of us.

Did it every occur to you that just because these bad things have happened in our lives we can understand and sympathize with others who have terrible things happening/happened to them, whereas the hater ilks simply don't give shit, and, in fact, like the fascists, rejoice in the bad things happening to others, and often do their best to make it worse, since, after all, CRUELTY IS THE THE POINT?

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6 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Both. I don't think it was a chase

on what criteria do you make such a judgement?

8 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Furious, pissed off, protective over his wife absolutely, but not scared.

Idk being protective over someone usually means being scared for their safety,

9 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

What was the worst that could happen?

my first thought on hearing this was Diana and how the press’s zealousness lead to a crash. I think it’s okay to think he was exaggerating his worry but I don’t think it’s fair to declare it was non-existant.

10 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Again.  Big deal, shut the curtains. 

or call the cops. At a certain point it just becomes stalking and harassment right?

11 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

You lot must never have had anything remotely bad happen to you to be getting so heated about something so low level happening to someone else that you've never met.

ehhh.

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11 minutes ago, Zorral said:

 

Did it every occur to you that just because these bad things have happened in our lives we can understand and sympathize with others who have terrible things happening/happened to them, whereas the hater ilks simply don't give shit, and, in fact, like the fascists, rejoice in the bad things happening to others, and often do their best to make it worse, since, after all, CRUELTY IS THE THE POINT?

What terrible thing happened? Did I miss something? 

Honestly, the pearl clutching is insane. 

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Also, entirely missing is Harry's self-declared mission to CHANGE THE MEDIA and its behaviors.  He's been on it for a long time, quite like a long-term military mission that has an objective that may take years to accomplish, or even fail, but he's trying.

And of course the haters say this is a lie at worst, and self-aggrandizement at best.  Feh. 

They are not perfect, they aren't even the sort of people I'd ever chose to hang out with (nor would they chose me either, presumably), but they are NOT BAD PEOPLE.  Confronted with and badly, badly affected every single day by the many genuinely evil people out there determined to destroy my life and happiness, such as it is, how can anybody be angry with these two?

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28 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

What terrible thing happened? Did I miss something? 

Honestly, the pearl clutching is insane. 

It's the fear of something happening. Being followed in general is a scary experience. I can't imagine how much worse it would be when that's literally what got your mom killed and he's said he's afraid he/they might die the same way. 

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5 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

It's the fear of something happening. Being followed in general is a scary experience. I can't imagine how much worse it would be when that's literally what got your mom killed and he's said he's afraid he/they might die the same way. 

Yeah. If its down a back alley. Not if you have a security detail. 

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7 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said:

It's the fear of something happening. Being followed in general is a scary experience. I can't imagine how much worse it would be when that's literally what got your mom killed and he's said he's afraid he/they might die the same way. 

So why allow yourself to get involved in a "chase"? This is what I really, really don't understand. So they get their pictures taken against their will? Big fucking deal. They are just pictures. 

Exceeding the speed limit and endangering the lives of other road users if you're trying to escape kidnappers or assassins? Absolutely justified. 

Doing the same because you don't want your picture taken? GTFOH. 

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24 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Yeah. If its down a back alley. Not if you have a security detail. 

You know I’m reminded of Elon Musk’s reaction to Elonjet a Twitter account that monitored his flight patterns.

Elon is the richest man in the world and as result has the best security detail money can buy, the information from Elonjet was publicly available and not even useful in terms of tracking Elon once off the plane.

Elon still actually offered Elonjet 10,000 bucks to shut down the account.

Was his fear justified? I don’t think so no. But did he have that fear? Probably so yes.

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33 minutes ago, Spockydog said:

So why allow yourself to get involved in a "chase"? This is what I really, really don't understand. So they get their pictures taken against their will? Big fucking deal. They are just pictures. 

Exceeding the speed limit and endangering the lives of other road users if you're trying to escape kidnappers or assassins? Absolutely justified. 

Doing the same because you don't want your picture taken? GTFOH. 

I think @Heartofice will like this, and the board will collapse.

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38 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Yeah. If its down a back alley. Not if you have a security detail. 

I was sure Diana had a security detail.....  Ok it was no longer the royal security detail and paid privately.  

 

Also Diana wasn't just hounded and chased once.  that had been going on for a months (actually years - but he really intense bit was after she started dating Dodi)  It built up and gor more and more extrme and intense.  He can see the same thing happenening again.  it would be fightening to anyone who saw that happen to his mother then start again with his wife...  even if this incedence is mild by comparasion.

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1 hour ago, Spockydog said:

So why allow yourself to get involved in a "chase"? This is what I really, really don't understand. So they get their pictures taken against their will? Big fucking deal. They are just pictures. 

Exceeding the speed limit and endangering the lives of other road users if you're trying to escape kidnappers or assassins? Absolutely justified. 

Doing the same because you don't want your picture taken? GTFOH. 

Allow? Man I don't get that at all. And I'm sure you'd feel differently if people were chasing you to take pictures to then plaster them on the internet when you specifically did not want that. 

The reason for speeding is because they felt like they were being chased. Stop blaming the victims. Go after the shitheads who were doing it. Like I said before, I've had to escort VIPs in the past and they don't always love the attention. Not everyone is a Kardashian. So again, when you show up to a public event, you're fair game. When trying to leave and get back to where you're staying, leave them the fuck alone. 

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3 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

My point is 'big fucking deal'. Some wankers followed you in your car, you were never in danger and could have ended it whenever they wanted by just going home and closing the door and letting your security detail deal. 

He went to war, and he's terrified by a man on a motorbike with a camera running a red light? GTFO I don't buy it at all. 

Paparazzi are one thing; but paparazzi on wheels is something else. Diana’s death isn’t the only time this nonsense came to grief.

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9 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said:

 

Paparazzi are one thing; but paparazzi on wheels is something else. Diana’s death isn’t the only time this nonsense came to grief.

Isnt it?

Diana came to grief because her driver was dickhead. Again, she was in no danger. He drove like a lunatic and killed her. If he'd lived he would be up for causing death by dangerous driving. 

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1 minute ago, Raja said:

Lmao didn't realize being followed is an opt out activity :lol:

Being followed, so you agree not chased? You can be followed responsibly and not put others in danger through your stubborn selfishness. 

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Just now, BigFatCoward said:

Being followed, so you agree not chased?

I have no idea. I wasn't there, neither do I have a window into Harry's mental state like you do :dunno:

The security detail dude described it as follows

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I have never seen, experienced anything like this. What we were dealing with was very chaotic. There were about a dozen vehicles: cars, scooters and bicycles,” Sanchez said.

Police described it as follows

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Police said the incident was “challenging” but there were no collisions and no one was hurt.

Based on what I've read in the CNN article and on the guardian, I think it's totally reasonable if they were scared of what was occurring - maybe some of us here wouldn't be fazed by this at all, but let's not think that that is the *only* reaction one can have.

 

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5 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said:

Isnt it?

Diana came to grief because her driver was dickhead. Again, she was in no danger. He drove like a lunatic and killed her. If he'd lived he would be up for causing death by dangerous driving. 

A paparazzi was killed a few years ago chasing after Justin Bieber. I hope they carved that on his tombstone.

nicole Kidman was run over by a paparazzi on a bicycle.

two guys were convicted of misdemeanor false-imprisonment for boxing in Arnold Schwarzenegger and his then-pregnant wife with their vehicles. 

Ryan Reynolds was the victim of a hit-and-run by a paparazzi while in Vancouver filming Deadpool. He was on foot at the time. Fortunately he wasn’t really injured.

that’s just off the top of my head. I’m sure there are plenty more.

do you seriously think these guys are going to be courteous drivers who observe the rules of the road? Of course this is dangerous.

and I wouldn’t put it past these vultures to actually cause an accident so they could sell the photos of the aftermath. 

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