Daemon the Leaner Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 14 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: If man utd really are asking for 50 million for Maguire, that is fucking hilarious. how much is he worth then? because it feels like asking for less than 50M is a hilarious loss on the purchase price, while asking for more than 50M is hilariously deluded considering the player he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Daemon the Leaner said: how much is he worth then? because it feels like asking for less than 50M is a hilarious loss on the purchase price, while asking for more than 50M is hilariously deluded considering the player he is 15-20 max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 Cut your losses. You have overpaid on him, he is a player that takes up a place on your squad and is on heavy wages. If you get 30m from someone take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Consigliere said: Bayern have most likely offered Kane just as much. After all, they are paying Mane almost as much (€22 million/year reportedly) and he could yet leave to one of the Saudi clubs. Bayern also have a very healthy wage/revenue ratio of 53% so they have plenty of room to manoeuvre on wages especially given that clubs of Bayern's stature all have wage/revenue ratios around 65% or more. So wages aren't going to be the stumbling block but the transfer fee will be. Edited July 12, 2023 by Iskaral Pust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Daemon the Leaner said: how much is he worth then? because it feels like asking for less than 50M is a hilarious loss on the purchase price, while asking for more than 50M is hilariously deluded considering the player he is No reliable or even semi-reliable sources have reported that United are asking 50 million for Maguire. This claim seems to have originated from MEN who are notoriously unreliable and not much better than the tabloid shitrags. The reliable journos have said that Maguire himself has no intention of leaving and is determined to fight for his place - Romano reported that Maguire has been training with Ricardo Carvalho for the past 3 weeks. Also, it's worth noting that Maguire is 4 years into a 6-year contract so a transfer fee of over £27m would be recorded as a profit on the books due to amortisation. Edited July 12, 2023 by Consigliere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 From Maguire's point of view, I guess he doesn't want his time at United to be seen as a total failure, and also I imagine there aren't any 'big' teams interested in him, so it wouldn't be a surprise if he wanted to stay and fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Why don’t they just loan him out for a year, let him get his confidence back and then sell him on later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) Because Maguire doesn't want to leave and is intent on fighting for his place. We would also have to sign a replacement since we can't go into a season with only 3 CBs, one of whom is an injury prone Varane, and FFP considerations restrict how much United can spend without selling. Edited July 12, 2023 by Consigliere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Chatter I hear now is that Gnoto was never really something we asked about, and that we instead still look at Elanga. Which I'm liable to believe, because it's the kind of stupid sh*t that fits the image Billy Boy has cultivated since he lucked out on Moyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunland Lord Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Had Gnonto stayed here he'd be rotting on the bench while loaned to some midtable Serie B team. Is he staying in Leeds now when they got relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorshach Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 Hard to say. He has a long contract, but there should be interest from PL-teams. He's a *lot* more exciting that Anthony Elanga. The Sunland Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Consigliere said: Because Maguire doesn't want to leave and is intent on fighting for his place. We would also have to sign a replacement since we can't go into a season with only 3 CBs, one of whom is an injury prone Varane, and FFP considerations restrict how much United can spend without selling. Besides a boost in confidence wouldn't still fix his lack of speed. That's the big underlying problem for Maguire/United. You play a high line, you need pacey cbs with a good recovery speed. The onr quality he lacks. He can be a good/useful player for two teams who play with a low block, but for what ten Hag wants to do with United he is just a bad fit. So a good loan move means he ends up with a team that defends deeper, he fits in and plays well and regains confidence, then he returns to United and there they still play with a high line again exposing the weak side of his game. Assuming ten Hag will still be in charge next year, and they don't bring in a new manager with a playing style that suits Maguire more. Point is, this not really about confidence but rather what kinda player Maguire is and what he is not. And he is just a bad fit there. ants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted July 12, 2023 Author Share Posted July 12, 2023 20 hours ago, Iskaral Pust said: Yep. The best part is, that Mane no longer features in their plans and they really hope to offload him to Saudi Arabia (or elsewhere). Question is, whether Mane is willing to play ball and bugger off somewhere. Or if he does the Maguire thing and wants to fight for his chance. He still has 2 years left on his contract IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iskaral Pust Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 2 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: Yep. The best part is, that Mane no longer features in their plans and they really hope to offload him to Saudi Arabia (or elsewhere). Question is, whether Mane is willing to play ball and bugger off somewhere. Or if he does the Maguire thing and wants to fight for his chance. He still has 2 years left on his contract IIRC. The CL was always a big deal to Mane. I think he’ll stay at Bayern rather than sail off into the West with Frodo, Messi and the elves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teng Ai Hui Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 If USA get to the final of the Gold Cup, they won't win, not playing like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Note to self, USA Gold Cup matches start in the 90th minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 USA - Panama 2-1 (on shitty penalties). That's it. Mediocre performance from the US at this tournament against the more serious opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teng Ai Hui Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Poor tournament overall for USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 Yeah, but he is 30+ now, and he has already won that thing. He has pretty much won everything he possibly could've hoped for. Africa Cup, CL, championships in Europes major leagues. Apart from the longshot of lifting the World Cup with Senegal as the first African Nation, what's left for him? Only reason I can see him sticking in Europe is him wanting to play the 2026 WC (After injuries forced him out of the last one), and him either not believing that Saudi league will be there in 3 years and him not finding a suitable club, when/if it disolves. Either this Bayern contract, or whatever the Saudis (or anybody else) are offering him, will be his last big contract. I don't really see him as still going strong at 35 or 36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I think getting a really good striker would make our team even better, and I think Balogun *could* be that guy. I'd love to see him get a chance, but dunno if he's patient enough to wait. ants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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