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1 minute ago, Martell Spy said:

Here's another good one. Conformity and rape babies. That's what being American is about.

 

As a German this sorta stuff makes me sorta nostalgic.

Now you just have to make people swear oaths on the President (the person) instead of the constitution and you have taken the first steps into a larger world. As famous German General Kenobi once said.

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53 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

“Everything happens for a purpose!”

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Sure, and sometimes the purpose is bad people doing bad things to other people for their own shitty reasons, or, purpose, if you will.  But why shouldn't these nuts sanctify rape?   Plenty of rape, incest and other horrible things done to women and children in their 'good book'.    :shocked:

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Opinion | Why Republicans Are Making a Big Mistake on Biden’s Age
I’m a Republican strategist — and I think my party is making a big mistake.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/22/im-a-republican-strategist-bidens-age-wont-doom-him-00142492

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But Republicans are making a big mistake if they think voters will not reelect a geriatric politician.

As a Republican strategist who has bluntly tried to make the case for generational change against an opposing presidential candidate, I can tell you it doesn’t really work.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Martell Spy said:

Opinion | Why Republicans Are Making a Big Mistake on Biden’s Age
I’m a Republican strategist — and I think my party is making a big mistake.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/02/22/im-a-republican-strategist-bidens-age-wont-doom-him-00142492

 

Eh. It's just cover for people who are already not liking Biden for various reasons to be able to say they didn't want to vote for him. Voters in general probably don't care, but enough of Biden's coalition - specifically the younger, progressive, minority - appear to such that it may be an issue. 

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16 hours ago, BigFatCoward said:

Bidens dog bit secret service more than 20 times, hilarious, why wasn't it put down? 

I saw that article. Ridiculous and highly irresponsible of the Bidens. After the first bite, they were on notice that their dog had a serious problem. But to let their dog bite over 20 people is crazy.  For a normal person, that would be grounds for civil lawsuits and potentially even criminal liability. 

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16 minutes ago, LongRider said:

Where was the article sourced from?  I would like to read it.  

Are you referring to the dog bite article?  If so:

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/02/21/politics/commander-biden-secret-service-bites-white-house/index.html

Actually, it’s 24 dog bites just to Secret Service agents.  That number doesn’t include other staff that were bit.

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10 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

Bloody German Shepherds have been completely ruined by stupid breeders in North America. For decades they’ve been bred to be aggressive, for the security dog trade. I see from stories the dog has had lots of training sessions. The Bidens had the same issue with their previous German Shepherd, Major, the dog having been banished from the White House. I think Commander has been banished now as well.

One of the stories says the White House tours had to be stopped at one point to clean up a puddle of blood near the gift shop, for crying out loud.

The Bidens love the breed, having had other German Shepherds in the past. It’s unfortunate they’ve had bad luck with two dogs in a row. Decades ago you saw people in the park around here with German Shepherds but they’ve completely vanished now. In my local area there were some bad incidents with the breed and dogs were put down. The only trace of them is cross-bred mutts that have obvious GS looks.

Oh, and that slender look was bred for, and the breed became notorious for hip dysplasia. People stayed away from the breed because no one wants monster-sized vet bills with the end result of advice from the vet to put the dog down because it’s in such pain.

Yeah, Americans don't know how to look after dogs. Tying them up outside all day long. Chopping off their freaking ears. JFC.

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The Bidens have had the exact same issue w/ more than one dog. The problem is not the dog. 

Mind you, I'm not saying it's them or the environment or whatever b/c we basically have zero reliable info other than the dogs bit a bunch of people. The problem could be a number of things, a combo of things etc. But given the 2-2 score I feel pretty confident in my belief that the dogs are not the issue.

 

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1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said:

The Bidens have had the exact same issue w/ more than one dog. The problem is not the dog. 

Mind you, I'm not saying it's them or the environment or whatever b/c we basically have zero reliable info other than the dogs bit a bunch of people. The problem could be a number of things, a combo of things etc. But given the 2-2 score I feel pretty confident in my belief that the dogs are not the issue.

 

I’d give them the benefit of the doubt. They’d had previous German Shepherds without a problem. The stories say they brought in trainers, and when a professional trainer can’t break the biting habit I don’t think you can lay that at the feet of the owners.

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7 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

I’d give them the benefit of the doubt. They’d had previous German Shepherds without a problem. The stories say they brought in trainers, and when a professional trainer can’t break the biting habit I don’t think you can lay that at the feet of the owners.

They got Commander when he was about 4 months old, so they were responsible for raising and training the dog in that environment.  I find it very unlikely that they properly trained and socialized their dog, and then it grew up to want to bite everyone anyway.  Both dogs that they tried to raise in the White House turned out the same way, while the other dogs grew up in a different environment, probably in a traditional home, and probably when one or both of the Biden's had more time to devote to the training of their dog.  If they waited to bring in trainers after their dog started to bite people, then that's really too late.  The failure was not correcting early behaviors that indicated aggression when the pup was growing up.

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29 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

I’d give them the benefit of the doubt. They’d had previous German Shepherds without a problem. The stories say they brought in trainers, and when a professional trainer can’t break the biting habit I don’t think you can lay that at the feet of the owners.

I wouldn't.

You can, and absolutely should, lay all bad dog behaviour at the feet of the owners. Especially when they've done such a terrible job of raising their dogs that not even a professional trainer can unpick their negligence.

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I mean, training your large and potentially dangerous dog not to go around biting people is the absolute basic minimum requirement for large and potentially dangerous dog owners.

Anyone else would be banned from owning dogs by now.

 

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I think it's a little strange that we're even talking about this like this is "Joe's dog".  He's the president.  He doesn't have time to be spending half an hour every day training a young German Shepard (if he's even strong enough to control him, which I doubt).  

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2 hours ago, Spockydog said:

He's POTUS. He doesn't actually do anything himself. As discussed earlier, all the dude has to do is make noises out of his face hole. Somebody should have been told to train the goddamn puppy.

There are literally multiple major wars going on right now and no, he doesn't just have to make noises fart out of his face hole. Training a dog is very, very, very far down on the org chart. 

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6 hours ago, Spockydog said:

I wouldn't.

You can, and absolutely should, lay all bad dog behaviour at the feet of the owners. Especially when they've done such a terrible job of raising their dogs that not even a professional trainer can unpick their negligence.

Also there are trainers and trainers; in other words, the good, the bad, and the terrible.

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