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  1. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    I went back to check, and I stand corrected - yes, Edric thinks Wylla is Jon Snow's mother: Always so mysterious, JNR, about your theories. There's no harm in changing your opinion on a specific topic. I do it all the time!
  2. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    Here's my train of thought - when exactly did everyone decide that Robert had the best claim? I mean, surely they didn't decide all this when the Rebellion started. Jaime made it sound like he didn't know right up until Ned arrived and found him sitting on the Iron Throne. He said he was waiting to see who would claim it. Other men asked Jaime who it should be and even suggested Tywin. The rebels had to win the war first before crowning any king, so maybe Ned brought Robert's van with his northmen, because Robert was injured, and not because Ned WAS Robert's van?
  3. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    To me it looks like Starfall, High Hermitage, and Blackmont are located in a valley made by the Torrentine. The Torrentine is described as having high canyons. They probably chose these locations for the natural protection of the mountain range, but access is probably limited to the river itself. Starfall and High Hermitage appear to be on the west side of the river, while Blackmont is on the east side...so there needs to be a bridge if going over land to Starfall. Then there's that description that says Starfall is actually on an island. I'm not saying people couldn't try to climb over mountains and scale canyons, but doing so wouldn't be easy. It would be dangerous and difficult to do on horseback.
  4. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    Arianne was taking Myrcella to Hellholt only because it's the home of Ellaria Sand's father, Harman Uller. There was no plan to go further. Arianne was hoping to receive her oaths of fealty at Hellholt. I think she only meant she needed the fealty of Darkstar's castle. I was actually reviewing all the maps this morning and was trying to trace Ned's path, but he couldn't have crossed the Mountains of the Moon if he ended up crossing the Bite. The Mountains of the Moon appear to run parallel to the Neck on the western edge of Arryn's territory. Doesn't it make more sense that Ned travelled north along the east side of the base of this range instead? It's not clear if the Fingers reaching eastward are actually considered part of the Mountains of the Moon. From the Eyrie it looks like Ned could have travelled in a valley with the Mountains of the Moon to his left/west and then followed a river. There are two forks leading into a larger river with Strong Song to the northwest and Heart's Home to the southwest. It looks like he could have followed the river northwest past Strong Song through a pass that leads north to the coast facing the Three Sisters.
  5. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    I'm just curious why anyone would accept that Ned fought the three Kingsguard in the Prince's Pass at the assumed location of the tower of joy, and then believe that all his closest men were there with him? In the dream his men are all wraiths - including Howland. What do you think this means? In his dream Howland rides away with him, so we assume he's still alive. He'd have to remain alive in order to father Meera and Jojen, so why is he included with all the other men as being wraiths? Another curious wording choice that I've been ruminating on today is calling Ned's men "Robert's van". Why wouldn't they just say Ned was racing south with his men or with the northmen? Is it possible that Ned lost his closest men at the Ruby Ford during the battle against Rhaegar? It's said Robert was injured, so it must have been a major battle. Did any of Robert's men go with Ned or did they hold back and wait with Robert?
  6. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    The people left alive that might know the truth and have been keeping it secret are not POV characters nor even characters on any of the pages. I was rethinking who GRRM wished he hadn't killed off yet and wondered if it was Kevan Lannister. GRRM needs someone from that era who would know the truth of Lyanna's abduction, although Kevan would have no idea regarding the tower of joy - but Howland would. As readers, we are expecting Howland to answer a lot of the unsolved mysteries that have kept us occupied for years on this forum. I think you are misremembering this or misinterpreting, because Edric does not believe that Wylla is Jon's mother. Harwin clarifies for Arya that Edric believes Ashara is Jon's mother, and that he and Jon shared the same wetnurse named Wylla, who has worked for the Daynes "for years".
  7. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    How do we know they weren't in Kings Landing? If you're going off Ned's fever dream he only wonders where they were when Jaime slew the king. The throne room in the Great Hall is a long way from Maegor's Holdfast or any other tower within the Red Keep. All Ned wondered about was why they weren't in close physical proximity to Aerys.
  8. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    You were proposing Ned found her in the tower and later moved her to Starfall, correct? I think I’m probably the sole believer that Rhaegar called Maegor’s Holdfast the tower of joy - in a sarcastic way, because really horrible terrible things occurred in that tower over the hundreds of years it’s existed. I also believe Ned fought each of the three Kingsguard in single combat, one at a time. One was at the stairs leading to the drawbridge, one at the drawbridge, and the last guarding the door to the royal apartments. I believe Ned found Lyanna in the black cells after “tearing down” the tower searching for her and “built cairns” with the bloody stones, because most of his men died while searching during the Sack. I’m not quite sure how to interpret “pulled” down the tower, but I think there is an alternate explanation that I haven’t quite puzzled out yet. When Jaime searched for Tyrion in the Tower of the Hand, GRRM described the search as “tearing down” the tower, plus Cersei instructed the pyromancers to burn it down, because she couldn’t stand to look at it. This is a parallel to how Ned felt about the circumstances of Lyanna’s death. i think a careful examination of the map should be enough evidence to debunk the theory that Ned was ever at the tower of joy, much less use the Prince’s Pass to get to Starfall. I think the only way to get to Starfall is by boat.
  9. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    I’m not sure you’re getting what I am proposing. Let’s start from the beginning - the Harrenhal tourney - and let’s assume it was a cover to gather support for Rhaegar to overthrow his father. Wouldn’t houses Stark, Arryn, and Baratheon be counted as Rhaegar supporters? After gathering and counting his supporters, Rhaegar leaves to carry out his personal preparations. A plan would have been worked out prior to his departure, and I’m presuming part of the plan would be for the northern houses to gather their armies and wait for Rhaegar at the Trident. If that was the plan, then Rhaegar would be confused when the rebel force turned out to be against him.
  10. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    No, not at all. Rhaegar wanted the throne. Rhaegar wasn’t sure why Robert wanted to kill him. “Lyanna” would be more of a confused question, like what are you talking about?
  11. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    I’m going off the assumption that Rhaegar plotted a coup. Aerys demanded the executions - not Rhaegar. The executions were just more proof that Aerys had to go. What if Rhaegar thought he was on the same side as the rebels?
  12. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    Well, I think Rhaegar went to the Trident thinking he could straighten out a misunderstanding. For shits and giggles lets try to imagine Rhaegar's movements as if he were plotting to overthrow his father. 1) He goes to Harrenhal to gauge and gather support. Actually, we need to back up a bit and question who has backed this tourney? Surely this wasn't all Lord Whent's idea? 2) Leaves after the tourney to attend Aegon's birth on Dragonstone. 3) After Elia has recovered they all travel to Dorne to request 10,000 Dornish to protect Elia while he tries to force his father off the throne. He may have swapped his heir for the Pisswater Prince in anticipation of the coming struggle with his father. Actually, the reason why Aerys took Elia hostage in the first place was because he thought the 10,000 Dornish were coming specifically to overthrow him. 4) Leaves Dorne after hearing about the Battle of the Bells. The rebelling factions have just now become a confusing and serious threat over a missing girl. 5) Rhaegar encourages his father to send a raven to Tywin. He must have had some confidence that Tywin was still his friend. 6) After assembling a few men, Rhaegar leaves Kings Landing without waiting for his 10,000 Dornish. Why would he do that? Wouldn't it be more prudent to wait for 10,000 soldiers? The soldiers were supposed to defend Elia during the coup, but rather than wait for them to arrive he leaves Kings Landing for the Trident to try and sort out the confusion. He tells Jaime things will change when he returns. I think Rhaegar thought he could stop the fighting and bring all the armies back to force Aerys off the throne without further bloodshed. 7) Another thing to consider is why did the Rebel army assemble and wait at the Trident? After the Battle of the Bells they could have kept marching towards Kings Landing, but they didn't. They retreated and waited. If you look at the map (again) Stoney Sept is way south of the Ruby fork of the Trident. It's actually at the west end of the Blackwater river. Assembling at the Trident would be a heck of a retreat for a conquering army, which makes me suspect that the Trident was actually a prearranged meeting place - for the houses that wanted to help Rhaegar force Aerys from the throne.
  13. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    Technically, Ned didn't say he looked for the Kingsguard in Kings Landing. He just said he wondered where they were when Jaime killed the king. The Red Keep has seven massive drum towers. The Great Hall with the throne room and the Tower of the Hand are just two of them. The Great Hall is large enough to feast a thousand people. It's second only to Harrenhal's Great Hall in size. Maegor's Holdfast is square-shaped tower that holds the royal apartments and is located at the heart of the Red Keep. It has massive twelve-foot thick walls, a moat, and a drawbridge with stairs that lead up to the drawbridge. In a compound this large, if the Kingsguard were guarding Maegor's Holdfast during the Sack, they certainly were far and away from the throne room.
  14. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    I too have wondered why Lady Barbary wasn't forced to remarry, but I don't think it's because Lord Dustin is still alive. For some odd reason she has a good relationship with Roose and I think he offers her some protection.
  15. Feather Crystal

    Heresy 219 and a whisper of Winter

    When Tyrion sent Myrcella to Dorne, didn't Doran send any hostages to Kings Landing? After Myrcella's injury he sent Nymeria to fill Dorne's position on the Small Council. Cersei had "invited" Tystane, but she really wanted him killed and blame it on Tyrion.
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