red snow Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Ugh. That portrayal of Angel was cringe worthy, especially the scene where he saves his dad. It wasn't Foster's fault, he's a good actor and all, but I hate what X3 did with Angel. I thought the opening scene of him trying to shave his wings off was the best in the film. But, yeah they fucked the character up after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I thought the opening scene of him trying to shave his wings off was the best in the film. But, yeah they fucked the character up after that. I'm a little puzzled at this, because, well, the character didn't actually do much. I mean, he went to Xavier's looking for help, and he saved his father from the Brotherhood, and he flew a bit... he probably had about four lines of dialogue, total, after that scene. I could understand people complaining that the character was wasted or not used, but since they hardly did anything with him, saying they 'fucked the character up' is somewhat of a strange complaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm a little puzzled at this, because, well, the character didn't actually do much. I mean, he went to Xavier's looking for help, and he saved his father from the Brotherhood, and he flew a bit... he probably had about four lines of dialogue, total, after that scene.I could understand people complaining that the character was wasted or not used, but since they hardly did anything with him, saying they 'fucked the character up' is somewhat of a strange complaint.I guess it really comes down to that horrible scene where he saves his father, with the cheesy music playing. I also wsnted to see the cocky playboy Angel we know from the comics. I didn't care for the cure storyline with him and Rogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Well, if Apocalypse possesses Magneto back in the 70's, the world Logan returns to (the present) could be a sudo Age of Apocalypse (ie vastly different timeline). Fassbender can now look the same (being immortal) if Sir Ian doesn't want to return. Cyclops and Jean can be alive again. They can keep Jennifer Lawrence if they can (or if she wants). We'd lose McAvoy and Hoult, but get to keep Rogue, Iceman, Colossus, etc. If X-Men: A returns to the present, they can bring back Ben Foster to do the archangel storyline with the four horsemen. I liked Foster in the role. I agree this would be good, but my understanding is Singer wants AoA to focus on the young Xavier/Magneto cast. I suspect this might have to do with costs as much as anything. Trying to use both casts is probably rather expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Bryan Singer has confirmed through Twitter: Apocalypse is not an alien. Also, it appears the sequel for DoFP will indeed be the new guard (ok, looks like speculation from Blastr/SyFy as they don't offer a source). So, this may be it for Rogue, Iceman, Colosuss, etc in their current incarnations. That also means we might get young Cyclops and Jean back, though. And recasting Storm too. Wouldn't it be great to get mohawk Storm? :) ETA: Hmm... staying in the past kind of screws up getting Warren's wings chopped off and new metal ones with new spring blade action. Maybe Apocalypse will work out of time to snag the character backwards? Not sure of the rationale to do so. I just want to see Angel become Archangel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 ETA: Hmm... staying in the past kind of screws up getting Warren's wings chopped off and new metal ones with new spring blade action. Maybe Apocalypse will work out of time to snag the character backwards? Not sure of the rationale to do so. I just want to see Angel become Archangel.Not really. Alternate history. Magneto finds Warren, chops his wings off and turns him into Archangel. We skip all the other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Except that Warren was unborn in the 70's, or just a toddler. Apocalypse would have to find a way to jump to the "present" and take Warren back to the 70's or 80's. Of course, then you lose the drama for Xavier et al for having one of their own subverted to the other side. Archangel will have to have a different backstory, or they ret con Warren from X3 to having never happened. You know, after the events of DofP, Warren's mother celebrates too much and gets pregnant with Warren a lot earlier, so a new actor can step in for the early 80's. :) With young Scott and Jean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 or they ret con Warren from X3 to having never happened. That's it in 1. There's nothing stopping them from basically totally ignoring everything that happened in X3. And Singer's said that he'll do so if he wants to. I think that'd probably be easiest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Rumors of the likely follow up beyond Apocalypse...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci-2 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Rumors of the likely follow up beyond Apocalypse...? I just see this as getting stupider and stupider. Rogue's scene was already cut from DoFP, so I wonder if that movie will be a mess of edits. Making Reed the villain who purposely experiments on his kids guts the premise of the Four as the lovable Jetsonian family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 The X-men/F4 crossover story has been retracted by the original source. It's 100% BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 They need to re-cast the whole thing, and use DoFP to re-set the franchise... and get the fuck over making Wolverine the center of everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFSalami Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 This casting 20-year-olds and teenagers to play these characters is fucking mind-numbing to say the least, especially when they're not the awesome characters that we all know and love. X-Men Roster: Professor XJean GreyCyclopsStormWolverineRogueGambitNightcrawlerBishopCable That's fucking IT. All of them need to be in their late-20's to late-30's, and for god's sake can you give them some semblance of identity with at least a version of their varying comic costumes? Stop with the black leather NASCAR suit shit already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 You want cable - the grizzled warrior - in his 20s? Okay then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Take out Cable, Gambit and Bishop and put in Beast, Colossus and Kitty Pryde. The idea of a core X-Men roster lacking Kitty in particular is just nonsense. She's way more integral to the team than big-gun-toting grim and boring characters like Bishop and Cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MercenaryChef Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Age of apocalypse is a favored story line of mine. I want to see it as an animated series. Get some great voice actors, some hot animation and do it. I think twelve hour long episodes could do it proper justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plessiez Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Take out Cable, Gambit and Bishop and put in Beast, Colossus and Kitty Pryde. I'd be tempted to suggest Iceman (or Angel?) over Beast, but otherwise I'd definitely agree with this. Bishop and Cable aren't -- or shouldn't be -- "core" X-men, aren't particularly interesting characters in their own right, and in any event are each basically the same character. Why would you want both of them? Age of apocalypse is a favored story line of mine. The 90s were not kind to the X-men, and I think Apocalypse himself is a terrible villain, but I'll admit to having a soft spot for AoA. At least it managed to deal better with Magneto than most post-Claremont stuff I've read has tended to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deucalion Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Maybe they'll get an actual Russian to play Colossus this time around. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristi Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Nice! I didnt hear this news either! Cant wait - huge xmen fan, was MAJORLY disappointed with Wolverine though... horrible horrible movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFSalami Posted January 2, 2014 Author Share Posted January 2, 2014 You want cable - the grizzled warrior - in his 20s? Okay then. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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