Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Corvinus,No, it is told in The Hobbit.I don't recall any discussion of the Dwarven war with the Orcs in The Hobbit. Can you please point out where that war is mentioned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Corvinus,I don't recall any discussion of the Dwarven war with the Orcs in The Hobbit. Can you please point out where that war is mentioned?Yeah, I don't know. I could have sworn that stuff was mentioned in The Hobbit. I had re-read the book just about a month ago. All this information has become jumbled together in my brain. I know there is a brief mention the war between the Dwarves and Orcs at the end of the first chapter, where Thorin foolishly says that they paid the goblins for what they did, and maybe they should do the same to the Necromancer (on account of hearing of his father's fate) to which Gandalf replies that the combined power of all the Dwarf armies would not bring the Necromancer down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seli Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Recognisable isn't an issue, operable is. The hidden door to Moria is well hidden, but can be opened at any time by those in the know. That wasn't a hidden door though. More of an easy back entrance for the elf society living close to there in the better times of the past. Before those same elves were tricked into forging the (3, 7 and 9) rings by Sauron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Jake Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I skipped over all the posts because I haven't seen it yet. Just wanted to see what the general consensus was... is it good? I enjoyed the first 2, but wasn't crazy about either of them. Both of them could've easily had an hour or so trimmed off and would've been better movies, and they both rely on CGI too much. I miss the more practical effects of the LotR trilogy. I will say that Smaug looks pretty awesome though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I skipped over all the posts because I haven't seen it yet. Just wanted to see what the general consensus was... is it good? I enjoyed the first 2, but wasn't crazy about either of them. Both of them could've easily had an hour or so trimmed off and would've been better movies, and they both rely on CGI too much. I miss the more practical effects of the LotR trilogy. I will say that Smaug looks pretty awesome though. I think whatever your opinions are of the first two films your opinion of the third will be similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stannis Eats No Peaches Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I enjoyed the first two films until I started to think about them, and even now I think they were OK, if messy, films with moments of greatness (riddles in the dark, Smaug), but I really didn't like this third instalment while I was watching it. However this is probably the result of my bitterness with the trilogy working its way out of me now that I know it won't get any better, rather than just the quality of the third film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 I skipped over all the posts because I haven't seen it yet. Just wanted to see what the general consensus was... is it good? If you just want to know the general consensus without specifics, then it's fair to say that the consensus is that most people were disappointed with this 3rd film, and that's putting it mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I hope that extended edition will be better.some scenes ( ex. aftermath of battle, more Beorn ) probably will be there Someone knows when it will be available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I hope that extended edition will be better.some scenes ( ex. aftermath of battle, more Beorn ) probably will be there Someone knows when it will be available? The last 5 extended editions have been released the November after the theatrical releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seswatha Jordan Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Going to take the kids to see this tonight. Will post my thoughts afterwards. I really enjoyed the first two, even though there was many discrepancies with the book. That's Hollywood though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 A nicely on-the-button review by Adam Roberts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Ok, I've seen this now, despite all my talk that I wouldn't. I had a cinema day on Sunday, so mehThe Dol Guldur rescue...that's the most laughable thing I've watched in a long time :rofl: :rofl: I liked the idea behind it, and I was happy Galadriel was the one to drive Sauron out, but :rofl: at her turning all swamp lady on him :rofl: I also don't get why she collapsed and seemed exhausted before that. I imagine someone will tell me it's because "Sauron's oppressive presence" or something, but Gandalf was walking there perfectly well without collapsing...as were Elrond and Saruman...Ending was inconclusive. Thorin not buried, Thranduil never got his gems, no resolution for the Lake Town folk, yeah, basically what everyone has already said. Beorn :headbang: Yes, the film frustrated me. A lot. Even worse than I expected tbh, and I went in with low expectations anyway...oh well, at least it's over now. No more please PJ, no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Dwarf charge with Thorin in The Hobbit 3: http://youtu.be/NfvS45X8jnE this scene was one of few things I really liked in this film. Martin Freeman, Cumberbatch and Richard Armitage save the whole film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NestorMakhnosLovechild Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I just really don't understand the appeal of these movies. I watched the first two on HBO go a few weekends ago and they are just completely charmless orgies of unengaging, cartoonish violence and soulless computer graphics. Has there ever been a scene more spectacularly unnecessary and overdrawn than that fucking barrel scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 I just really don't understand the appeal of these movies. I watched the first two on HBO go a few weekends ago and they are just completely charmless orgies of unengaging, cartoonish violence and soulless computer graphics. Has there ever been a scene more spectacularly unnecessary and overdrawn than that fucking barrel scene? In Battle of Five Armies Legolas flies on bat and walks on falling rocks ... legolas the air walker: http://youtu.be/Lf5PUkBsHPA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted January 23, 2015 Author Share Posted January 23, 2015 Well as I think we all expected at least one fan cut has appeared trimming down on the unnecessary fights, and cutting Dol Guldur entirely, trimming that Barrel sequence (and I believe excising Bombors bit in it) (though I'm not sure where they got DVD quality of film 3. :dunno: ) But as the extended edition hasn't been released yet we'll have to wait to see if we get a resolution to the Arkenstone, and Thorins burial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 The Hobbit 3 Azog's Attack: http://youtu.be/KBChn02R_LY in polish dubbing version even in-movie Dain Ironfoot said something like " that's to much" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluetiger Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Weta Digital about making of special effects for the movie: http://youtu.be/qkyLDE_o0FMThey say there were 30 000 orcs in Azog's army and few thousands Elves and Dwarves. Do you think that 30 000 are only Azog's vanguard and his Dol Guldur host or joint forces of Azog and Bolg's second army from Gundabad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 The extended edition of the third movie will be rated R, because of "some violence." :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HexMachina Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 The extended edition of the third movie will be rated R, because of "some violence." :P Well I'd also urge adults to screen this film before showing it to their children. No child deserves to see such awful butchery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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