Heartofice Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Imagine being a celebrity and having an opinion about anything! Career suicide. That's why so many play it safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: She cancelled her twitter account. What is it with these MCU types and social media? James Gunn's old tweets were pure cringe. Like, stuff that I'd be embarrassed to say in a private social situation a grown man broadcasts to the world. The Chris Evans raging boner, the public shaming of Chris Pratt and Elizabeth Olson, now this. Personally, I couldn't care less. I'm not a fan of "cancel culture" per se, but if you have an outsized public profile due to your celebrity, you have a responsibility to use it carefully when you weigh in on shit that's out of your wheelhouse. To be fair in Gunn's case, they were from over a decade ago, long before he started making films in the MCU. He's out right stated many times, that's he changed and matured as a person since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 In James Gunn's particular case, while the tweets themselves aren't really defensible, they were (1) obviously jokes and (2) long before he really got famous and he'd clearly changed before he had to apologise. That's why he both immediately got a job at WB and why he eventually got his Marvel job back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Heartofice said: Imagine being a celebrity and having an opinion about anything! Career suicide. That's why so many play it safe. There have been occasions where I've had a lot of sympathy for public figures who were treated unfairly by the mob. But, f those celebrities want to truck in conspiratorial nonsense, or think that doing a few hours of research on the internet makes them an expert in something, they deserve what they get. They can defend their views or fuck off. There will be 300,000 grieving families in the US before the year is out and an orange skinned buffoon trying to tear down the last shred of political civility on his way out the door. My outrage is all used up right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 It sounds like the video was awful, but as usual with these things, I’m more confused how anyone can be stupid enough to share it when it’s so obviously a bad career move. Especially with what happened to James Gunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyroclasticFlow Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Thought this was a Marvel thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 55 minutes ago, Mr Meeseeks said: Marvel Actors can’t be part of the marvel thread? akso, what did Olsen do, I missed that one. It's what she didn't do. She didn't immediately take to social media and publicly grieve over the death of Chadwick Boseman like the rest of the planet. Some fans took her to task for it. People's grief is their own business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 'Spider-Man 3': Alfred Molina Returning as Doctor Octopus There are also rumors that pretty much everyone else is returning. Garfield, Maguire, Dunst, Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, RumHam said: 'Spider-Man 3': Alfred Molina Returning as Doctor Octopus There are also rumors that pretty much everyone else is returning. Garfield, Maguire, Dunst, Stone. On paper this sounds amazing. But take a step back and maybe I hate the idea. How do they even do this without it being some cringe worthy wink at the audience, fan service sort of crap? Into the Spiderverse was great and it did the whole meta thing very cleverly. But Tom Holland’s Spidey is self contained, I don’t really feel like I want it to break the fourth wall , even in a multiverse kind of way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 My new crazy tinfoil theory on all these Spider-Man casting announcements is that a few of these cameos (it's gotta be mainly cameos, right?), is that we might get some if then, in actuality, in the Doctor Strange movie and possibly even a reference or two in the upcoming Wanda/Vision... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 The multiverse is clearly going to be the big thing for Marvel in Phase 4, so the fact that Sony happened to make a movie setting up the idea and basically trialling it for Marvel seems to have been a happy accident (or maybe it made Marvel lean more heavily into the idea). Stuffing too much into a film can hurt it: Endgame only got away with it by having 20+ other movies setting it up beforehand, and Spider-Verse kind of cheated a little by having six Spider-Persons but only really doing anything with three of them. At this point I think the MCU has earned the benefit of the doubt though. Quote Marvel seem to have learned a few lessons from past casting controversies and gotten a deaf Native American to play a deaf Native American so hooray for that. Yeah, about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Werthead said: Yeah, about that... Quote The account also cited Matt Lintz rumored to play Bruno Carelli being a Trump supporter. I loathe trump but come on. It's one thing if the person is going to white power rallies, but 70 million people voted for the asshole are we just going to write them all off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, Heartofice said: On paper this sounds amazing. But take a step back and maybe I hate the idea. How do they even do this without it being some cringe worthy wink at the audience, fan service sort of crap? Into the Spiderverse was great and it did the whole meta thing very cleverly. But Tom Holland’s Spidey is self contained, I don’t really feel like I want it to break the fourth wall , even in a multiverse kind of way Already did though didn't they? J Jonah Jameson was played by JK Simmons in both. Molina was great as Doc Ock. I'll give Marvel the benefit of the doubt on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, RumHam said: I loathe trump but come on. It's one thing if the person is going to white power rallies, but 70 million people voted for the asshole are we just going to write them all off? I think it was more the guy who appears to be an actual sex offender being the really big question mark. The Trump supporter thing felt a bit weird. The Indian actors playing Pakistani roles or vice versa is also a very touchy subject to some audiences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, RumHam said: I loathe trump but come on. It's one thing if the person is going to white power rallies, but 70 million people voted for the asshole are we just going to write them all off? Quote Finally, the hiring of Yasmeen Fletcher and Zenobia Shroff being hired to play Muslim characters when they're not in real life. And wait... since when does an actor have to share the same religion? This isn't dressing someone up in blackface to play a different race. Could no one but a Jewish person play Tevya in Fiddler on the Roof? Are we upset that non-gay actors play parts like Harvey Milk or Freddie Mercury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Werthead said: I think it was more the guy who appears to be an actual sex offender being the really big question mark. Yeah, I'm not questioning that part of it. 4 minutes ago, Rhom said: And wait... since when does an actor have to share the same religion? This isn't dressing someone up in blackface to play a different race. Could no one but a Jewish person play Tevya in Fiddler on the Roof? Are we upset that non-gay actors play parts like Harvey Milk or Freddie Mercury? I don't see the problem with someone playing a character with a different religion either. I had no idea that the issues between India and Pakistan extended to people getting upset if someone from one country played a character from the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 James Caan being Jewish really ruined Godfather for me. Oh, and Elf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 hours ago, RumHam said: 'Spider-Man 3': Alfred Molina Returning as Doctor Octopus There are also rumors that pretty much everyone else is returning. Garfield, Maguire, Dunst, Stone. Just read the full article... I had forgotten that Jaime Foxx is coming back as Electro. They really are going full Spiderverse aren’t they?!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rhom said: Just read the full article... I had forgotten that Jaime Foxx is coming back as Electro. They really are going full Spiderverse aren’t they?!!? Seems that way, especially with Dr. Strange in there. Though it's possible that these are just cameos for one brief sequence involving Strange and the multiverse and the rest of the movie is about something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, Rhom said: Just read the full article... I had forgotten that Jaime Foxx is coming back as Electro. They really are going full Spiderverse aren’t they?!!? They really are going full nostalgia aren’t they?!!? 3 hours ago, Werthead said: The multiverse is clearly going to be the big thing for Marvel in Phase 4, so the fact that Sony happened to make a movie setting up the idea and basically trialling it for Marvel seems to have been a happy accident (or maybe it made Marvel lean more heavily into the idea). Stuffing too much into a film can hurt it: Endgame only got away with it by having 20+ other movies setting it up beforehand, and Spider-Verse kind of cheated a little by having six Spider-Persons but only really doing anything with three of them. At this point I think the MCU has earned the benefit of the doubt though. I think there's plenty of reason to doubt it going forward, but I've been wrong before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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