Jaxom 1974 Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 8:26 AM, The BlackBear said: Also in the comics Thanos is a deviant, which by their rules here would allow the Eternals to fight him, so they've obviously changed that. Thanos wasn't a Deviant in the comics. He's an Eternal. Unless there was some retcon I'm not aware of. His father was Mentor of the Eternals who left Earth. His brother is Starfox (cringey of the cringey power-wise in today's day and age, and rightly so...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 There is some retcon you’re not aware of. In fact, Thanos is a deviant Eternal these days per the most recent Eternals series (Kieron Gillen I believe). I think it’s still a bit of a weird reason for non intervention. You’re an eye blasting super strong guy (can smash an IKEA table with one blow) and you don’t fight just because of the rules? It’d be better if they were incapacitated somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, john said: In fact, Thanos is a deviant Eternal these days per the most recent Eternals series (Kieron Gillen I believe). I went to look this up, and I gotta say, given that series started this year, the fact that some commentators are trying to sell to their public that they know comics and can sort out the hidden lore of more obscure properties like the Eternals for film-only fans, but then go 'Marvel changed the Thanos backstory for the films, in the comics he's an Eternal' when that change happened three years after Infinity War was released, let alone started filming, is very funny to me. Also: don't like that change no sir. The Skrulls being a kind of Deviant I'm also kind of mixed on. I don't like massive sprawling universes being made to feel small by unnecessary ties between divergent parts of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 It seems clear just from looking at him that movie Thanos is neither an Eternal nor a deviant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkdaub Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 On 8/19/2021 at 12:16 PM, Rhom said: So that was a later ret-con I'm guessing? Otherwise, the name Children of the Atom really loses its weight... I am not sure when that happened. I read last night that The Celestials were working on what became the X-gene seven million years ago...per the time of the entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 Well, the X-gene was dormant until activated by radiation from atomic tests, wasn't it? I don't see how that is changed, except they'll probably make the gamma radiation from the Infinity Stones being used (three times) on Earth as the trigger. 1 hour ago, RumHam said: It seems clear just from looking at him that movie Thanos is neither an Eternal nor a deviant. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: Well, the X-gene was dormant until activated by radiation from atomic tests, wasn't it? I don't see how that is changed, except they'll probably make the gamma radiation from the Infinity Stones being used (three times) on Earth as the trigger. How so? Because he's a big purple raisin looking dude. He doesn't look anything like the eternals or the deviants as seen in those trailers. Plus we know he's basically just a guy from a planet that collapsed due to a shortage of resources. Not because of deviant attacks or "the emergence" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 My understanding is the Deviants are not a consistent look, they're basically mutated Eternals. So they can look like anything. Also, Thanos doesn't look like his fellow Titans. Clearly something is going on with him making him different. 1 hour ago, RumHam said: Because he's a big purple raisin looking dude. He doesn't look anything like the eternals or the deviants as seen in those trailers. Plus we know he's basically just a guy from a planet that collapsed due to a shortage of resources. Not because of deviant attacks or "the emergence" I was thinking if they want to seed the ground for the X-men, they could say the Eternals experimented by inserting the X-gene into the human population, but some of the Eternals were infected by something that inserted the X-gene into them too, and that created the Deviants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, SpaceChampion said: My understanding is the Deviants are not a consistent look, they're basically mutated Eternals. So they can look like anything. Also, Thanos doesn't look like his fellow Titans. Clearly something is going on with him making him different. I was thinking if they want to seed the ground for the X-men, they could say the Eternals experimented by inserting the X-gene into the human population, but some of the Eternals were infected by something that inserted the X-gene into them too, and that created the Deviants. Do we actually see any other titans? Maybe in Infinity War when he shows strange his non-destroyed world? I don't remember any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceChampion Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, RumHam said: Do we actually see any other titans? Maybe in Infinity War when he shows strange his non-destroyed world? I don't remember any. Yes, but they're too far away in the background to see. The concept art that came out made most of his family look fairly human. Some are like him, different, and different from each other. He's the only purple one for instance. I just watched a video that says Thanos technically is a half-Eternal, half-Deviant hybrid, in the comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGP Posted August 21, 2021 Author Share Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, SpaceChampion said: Yes, but they're too far away in the background to see. The concept art that came out made most of his family look fairly human. Some are like him, different, and different from each other. He's the only purple one for instance. I just watched a video that says Thanos technically is a half-Eternal, half-Deviant hybrid, in the comics. He has the DNA of both and then augmented that by absorbing a ridiculous amount of cosmic energy, which I want to say was revealed during Starlin's tenure but it was so long ago I can't quite recall and net results are seriously heavy wading on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 The Spider-Man NWH trailer leaked. A lot of it looks like pre-vis or partially rendered CGI. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Huh, has a trailer ever leaked before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quijote Light Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 From the little I saw, it looked like it borrowed from Brand New Day a little. At least I think that was the name of the storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Wow I was not prepared for the shittyness of that recording. But it's nice to have confirmation of sorts of all the rumors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Apparently a person at a vfx company in Montreal shared the trailer with a scooper and that scooper decided to share it online. The VFX employee (the name on the watermark in the video) as well as the scooper have been fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkdaub Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 What is a scooper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveSumm Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 12 hours ago, RumHam said: Snip Spoiler tag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumHam Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 hours ago, DaveSumm said: Spoiler tag? Sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Saw the leaked trailer and I loved it. I'm really not the biggest fan of Tom Hollands take on Spider Man. Don't get me wrong, he's a fine actor and fits the role very well, but in all the of his films, he really seems to be living in Tony Stark's shadow and I hope that finally he can start to become his own person. I was sort of hoping that would start with Far From Home, but that entire film was filled with "remember how awesome Tony was" moments, to the point where they started to take me out of the movie after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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