Succession final season (spoilers)

[Ran]

1 minute ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

He’s not in Silence of thr Lambs, he played Lector in Manhunter (an adaptation of Red Dragon I think)

Yes. Directed by Michael Mann, too.

[Tywin et al.]

55 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said:

I never saw “Silence of the Lambs” and I’m not sure which TV show snip that is that @Tywin et al. shared.

Grammar. I've never seen. 

How have you not watched Silence of the Lambs?

TV show? You're dismissing one of the greatest comedy movies of all time!
 

 

[Madame deVenoge]

1 hour ago, Derfel Cadarn said:

He’s not in Silence of thr Lambs, he played Lector in Manhunter (an adaptation of Red Dragon I think)

Ah. I watched Red Dragon on daytime TV when I was ridiculously sick with pneumonia. 

[Cas Stark]

Interesting.  More real life parallels than I thought.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/13/succession-anxiety-bombshell-claims-rupert-murdoch-family

[Winterfell is Burning]

45 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

Interesting.  More real life parallels than I thought.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/apr/13/succession-anxiety-bombshell-claims-rupert-murdoch-family

Key difference is that Logan seems much more rational than Murdoch. Can't see him genuinely believing all the non-sense Murdoch does. 

[Zorral]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/04/rupert-murdoch-cover-story#intcid=_vanity-fair-verso-hp-trending_8cfebb4f-1cc0-4503-8e57-67d28a3f4fad_popular4-1

 

[DireWolfSpirit]

Kendal-

"It sure as fuck doesnt say fucking Shiv!"

[kairparavel]

Did they script that fall for Shiv? Newly pregnant and in front of a bunch of men? I'm still reeling from that. Super dirty after the Kendall and Roman freeze out, but also par for her course.

[Cas Stark]

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Shiv being pregnant is a little 'soap opera' isn't it?

 

[Relic]

1 minute ago, Cas Stark said:

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Shiv being pregnant is a little 'soap opera' isn't it?

 

They laid plenty of groundwork for it in previous seasons, I reckon. 

[Ran]

Yeah, 

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My first reaction was that it was a bit soap, but then I thought back and yeah, they made a whole thing over her efforts to get pregnant before so there is good groundwork.

I loved how much it felt like the maneuverings after the death of a king, down to "Long live the kings!" from hapless Greg.

LOLed with his chancing "Greg with a question mark" next to it meant he was going to be Kendall's #2.

It's also painfully obvious that Logan scratched out Kendall's name.

Really good episode. Anyone feel Hugo's situation is going to cause a problem down the line for Kendall? He turns to him to do dirty work to blacken his father's name and put forward that they were puppet masters, but he knows Hugo is going to be fucked with the SEC once they notice what his daughter did.

 

[Cas Stark]

I loved how the entire arc of Kendall's life may now depend on whether he internalizes 'underlined' or 'crossed out'.....just like Ned Stark, Logal Roy will continue to exert influence long after his death.

[Madame deVenoge]

Ok, this is a spoiler thread, so I don’t feel the need to hide it:

Juliet (Hugo’s daughter, unseen / offscreen), Hugo, AND Kendall are fucked with the SEC because Juliet told Hugo of her insider trading and he did not immediately go to Gerri (General Counsel) who would have called external counsel, who would have been able to basically get Juliet a slap on the wrist of profit disgorgement and probably a small fine. Hugo then told Kendall, who basically did the same damn thing, PLUS blackmailed Hugo. 

Juliet will now get profits disgorgement and a large fine (maaaaybe some jail time, but not typical for someone in a retail trader position), while Hugo and Kendall are looking at jail time in Club Fed PLUS huge fines (criminal), and never being able to serve as a Director or Officer of a publicly traded company Ever Again.

Juliet really did take a strap-on to them all, but Hugo and Kendall both just laid back and took it.

Edited April 17 by Chataya de Fleury

[Relic]

4 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said:

Juliet really did take a strap-on to them all, but Hugo and Kendall both just laid back and took it.

Hot? 

[Relic]

Anyone up for some predictions? 

I'm seeing a Roman/Carrie development, given Roman's Oedipus complex. I think part of his interest in Gerri is thinking that his dad was there first. Not sure where that would go, but it would probably lead to Roman getting owned by Marcia. 

Connor will probably have some election influence with his .9%. No idea where that would lead, but I can see him getting the NarcoCapitalist (the Dem) running elected, putting him at odds with ATN.

Kendall is going to flame out, obviously. Could see a Marcia development here, given what she knows about him, and seeing as Colin is working for her now. 

Shiv and Tom come out on top, whatever that is. 

Greg - no idea. But everyone hates Greg, and he's been pretty horrible. Back to the parks throwing up out of Goofy's eyeholes?

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[Ran]

@Chataya de Fleury

Surely Kendall and Hugo can deny that conversation, though? Hugo can't deny his phone records with his daughter, but he spoke privately with Kendall. I guess his siblings might say they saw them talking, but... I suspect there's enough room for Kendall to skate, anyways, so long as there isn't any paper trail.

@Relic

Speaking of Colin, he looked genuinely heartbroken at the end of the previous episode.

I feel like Tom's document issues are not done with. Surely Greg did not just delete it, did he? He's learned enough to hold on to some dirt.

Greg can probably end up being bought off with a tiny golden parachute -- move him to executive position over the theme park, clause that he gets a fat multi-million payout if relieved of duty, GoJo buys the company and promptly closes the theme park, triggering the payout. 

I do think Kendall's very likely to flame out, though.

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[Madame deVenoge]

19 minutes ago, Ran said:

@Chataya de Fleury

Surely Kendall and Hugo can deny that conversation, though? Hugo can't deny his phone records with his daughter, but he spoke privately with Kendall. I guess his siblings might say they saw them talking, but... I suspect there's enough room for Kendall to skate, anyways, so long as there isn't any paper trail.

@Relic

Speaking of Colin, he looked genuinely heartbroken at the end of the previous episode.

I feel like Tom's document issues are not done with. Surely Greg did not just delete it, did he? He's learned enough to hold on to some dirt.

Greg can probably end up being bought off with a tiny golden parachute -- move him to executive position over the theme park, clause that he gets a fat multi-million payout if relieved of duty, GoJo buys the company and promptly closes the theme park, triggering the payout. 

I do think Kendall's very likely to flame out, though.

Aaah, but we have Hugo being pressured to do dirty deeds by Kendall. Hugo has zero motivation to do that on his own. This would be good evidence, IMO, that Kendall has a hold over Hugo, and we know what that hold is.

[Ran]

3 minutes ago, Chataya de Fleury said:

Aaah, but we have Hugo being pressured to do dirty deeds by Kendall. Hugo has zero motivation to do that on his own. This would be good evidence, IMO, that Kendall has a hold over Hugo, and we know what that hold is.

We do, but it's all still verbal, right? If Hugo ends up in a pinch I can see him blabbing, of course, but would the SEC just take Hugo's word for it that he had told Kendall about the situation? His doing dirty comms work when I expect that's what he generally did anyways wouldn't seem like much evidence.

If Hugo keeps coming around to his SEC problem, I'd definitely be careful of any further incriminating conversations if I were Kendall, though. And no stray texts or e-mails...

[RumHam]

Yeah it's hard to imagine that Logan would go back and underline Kendall's name for effect. 

2 hours ago, Relic said:

Could see a Marcia development here, given what she knows about him, and seeing as Colin is working for her now.

Could they really do anything with the dead waiter? At this point they've covered up what happened as much as Kendall. Assuming Kendall told the authorities the true story and they believed him, what charges would he even be facing? 

[Cashless Society]

On 4/13/2023 at 10:30 PM, Winterfell is Burning said:

Key difference is that Logan seems much more rational than Murdoch. Can't see him genuinely believing all the non-sense Murdoch does. 

I was listening to this one podcast which says that Logan, in terms of character, resembles Redstone more than Murdoch.

4 hours ago, Ran said:

Yeah, 

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LOLed with his chancing "Greg with a question mark" next to it meant he was going to be Kendall's #2.

It's also painfully obvious that Logan scratched out Kendall's name.

Really good episode. Anyone feel Hugo's situation is going to cause a problem down the line for Kendall? He turns to him to do dirty work to blacken his father's name and put forward that they were puppet masters, but he knows Hugo is going to be fucked with the SEC once they notice what his daughter did.

 

I'm pretty sure that was a wink to the fan theory that was popular during the early seasons.

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I still believe. 

Really? To me it looks like he clearly intended to underline it but his poor health makes it look like he's scratching it out halfway. It's also hilarious that Kendall is intact, but Logan Roy is scratched out.

Yep, I wonder who he'll turn to once Hugo is gone.

2 hours ago, Relic said:

Greg - no idea. But everyone hates Greg, and he's been pretty horrible. Back to the parks throwing up out of Goofy's eyeholes?

Nah, Greg always improves his station with every passing season, he's the Bronn of this show.