US Politics: They're Gunnin' 4 Us

[Ser Scot A Ellison]

21 hours ago, SpaceChampion said:

 

Actually a Trump conviction would do that.

[Fragile Bird]

4 hours ago, Ormond said:

They aren't talking about Soros running the departments. They are talking about him donating to their political campaigns. In many places in the U.S. District Attorneys, who are the chief prosecutors in a jurisdiction, are elected by the public. I think that's a bad idea myself, but that's the way it is. And the New York Post has repoted that Alvin Bragg, the District Attorney in charge of the relevant Trump case, had $1 million donated to his last campaign by George Soros. Not sure if that's accurate, but it's been widely repeated in the right wing media, and mentioned by Trump himself in his fundraising emails.

Geez, I feel like I have to repeat what I said in the UK thread. Haven’t you people heard of campaign limits???? It’s 2023, not 1823. The maximum you can donate to a federal candidate is $3,300 in Canada. I’d have to look up the different provinces, but the amounts are all pretty similar.

[Tywin et al.]

17 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Geez, I feel like I have to repeat what I said in the UK thread. Haven’t you people heard of campaign limits???? It’s 2023, not 1823. The maximum you can donate to a federal candidate is $3,300 in Canada. I’d have to look up the different provinces, but the amounts are all pretty similar.

It's a feature, not a bug.

[Larry of the Lake]

18 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

Geez, I feel like I have to repeat what I said in the UK thread. Haven’t you people heard of campaign limits???? It’s 2023, not 1823. The maximum you can donate to a federal candidate is $3,300 in Canada. I’d have to look up the different provinces, but the amounts are all pretty similar.

Citizens United

[Varysblackfyre321]

9 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said:

Actually a Trump conviction would do that.

No harm in hoping.

But my hope is small even if trump wasn’t meming for attention.

[Zorral]

Stll in Spain, the poorest part of Spain, the south, and yet, it remains, city after city, cleaner, saner, safer, functional, PROSPEROUS to a shocking degree, particularly compared with the actually madly wealthy northern Basque regions which have all the business and manufacturing.  In the south it's tourism and agriculture (but such splendid agriculture).  It is civilized.  The US and England still look and are seedy, grubby, dysfunctional with outsized numbers of insane inside and outside government.  Additionally in the US everyone is armed and are using the arms -- see Miami and DeSantis's curfew, for just latest examples.

Homelessness and the consequently mentally disturbed here few and far between.

On the other hand the dementia of Santa Semana is heating up big time, here in the South, where the last auto-da-fé was at the start of the 18th C. These things can turn on a dime.  People who aren't white are never in groups, hardly seen, and keep heads way down.

Mexico's food is much superior, of course.  OTOH, the wine and beer here, are of the Terroir, fresh, and of heaven.  So are the eggs and fruit and yogurt, etc.

Still makes the US look brutal and anything but civilized or financially attractive.

 

[A Horse Named Stranger]

10 hours ago, Zorral said:

In the south it's tourism and agriculture (but such splendid agriculture).  It is civilized.

Ah, agriculture in southern Spain.

Basically one of the most arid regions of Europe is used to grow bellpeppers and stuff to be shipped north. If you want to know institutional European insanity, that's a good place to start.

Edited March 21 by A Horse Named Stranger

[Jaxom 1974]

These declarations on Twitter that Trump will be the next Mandela if he's jailed...I say why not? I say let him wait 25 years or so before he released to run for President again...

[Maithanet]

If Trump is willing to sit in prison for the next 24 years, I'm willing to vote for him in 2048.  Politics is about compromise. 

[Martell Spy]

That's crazy that Fox News had a factchecking operation. Their entire business became about lies and they chased off their few semi-serious journalists. And that operation's work now gets used against them in these lawsuits

I guess maybe you can tell better lies if pros go over them? Did Goebbels have fact-checkers?

Fox News v Dominion: $1.6bn defamation fight heads to court
The voting machine company is suing the news channel over its disingenuous coverage of various outlandish election claims

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/21/fox-news-dominion-16bn-defamation-lawsuit-court

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By mid-November, Fox News’ internal factchecking operation, called “the brain room”, had factchecked outlandish claims about Dominion and had debunked them, according to Nelson’s presentation. Even though employees responsible for the network’s shows were aware of the falsity of those claims, they continued to air them. Dominion also sent more than 3,000 communications to employees at the network correcting the record about false claims, prompting one employee to joke in an email that he had the company’s “setting the record straight” email tattooed on his body.

Fox was so intent on broadcasting false claims about Dominion because it was concerned about losing viewers, who were angry about the 2020 election results and Fox’s decision to call it for Joe Biden, to a competing network, Newsmax. Nelson showed text messages from Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott complaining about the network’s factcheck of a false Dominion claim and saying it was bad for business.

 

Edited March 21 by Martell Spy

[Larry of the Lake]

Some of these AI generated images of Trump getting arrested are pretty entertaining.  Pretty entertaining in a "deep fakes are horrifying" kind of way.  

[Larry of the Lake]

Totally unrelated, but when the fuck are they going to get rid of that shitty Post Master General?

[A Horse Named Stranger]

Well, not enough to brankrupt Rupert, but maybe, just maybe enough to bring down Faux News. Just keep the suits coming

In other news. Michael Rapaport was enjoying himself.

 

[Corvinus85]

2 hours ago, Jaxom 1974 said:

These declarations on Twitter that Trump will be the next Mandela if he's jailed...I say why not? I say let him wait 25 years or so before he released to run for President again...

More like the next Manson.

[IheartIheartTesla]

Doubt the indictment was happening this week, its all part of his grift to fleece his gullible supporters. It was amusing to see how well trained the House GoP was, swinging into action based on rumors and hearsay. Normally, Congress waits until an act has happened to respond.

[Tywin et al.]

32 minutes ago, IheartIheartTesla said:

Doubt the indictment was happening this week, its all part of his grift to fleece his gullible supporters. It was amusing to see how well trained the House GoP was, swinging into action based on rumors and hearsay. Normally, Congress waits until an act has happened to respond.

Openly attempting to obstruct justice to protect a suspected criminal is pretty low, even for them.

[Zorral]

9 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Ah, agriculture in southern Spain.

Basically one of the most arid regions of Europe is used to grow bellpeppers and stuff to be shipped north. If you want to know institutional European insanity, that's a good place to start.

You are incorrect. This is the land of oranges and almonds, as well as wine. Much wonderful local produce that create wonderful salads. And much else. Nearly everywhere we have eaten the food is locally sourced. Both the Romans and 'Saracens' have understood farming and irrigation for centuries. One of the reasons Cordoba was the richest of kingdoms, and had neatly a million residents when Europe per se didn't have cities per se to speak of. Why do you hate Spain? 

[A Horse Named Stranger]

1 hour ago, Zorral said:

You are incorrect. This is the land of oranges and almonds, as well as wine. Much wonderful local produce that create wonderful salads. And much else. Nearly everywhere we have eaten the food is locally sourced. Both the Romans and 'Saracens' have understood farming and irrigation for centuries. One of the reasons Cordoba was the richest of kingdoms, and had neatly a million residents when Europe per se didn't have cities per se to speak of. Why do you hate Spain? 

You were saying something?

[Matrim Fox Cauthon]

10 hours ago, Tywin et al. said:

Openly attempting to obstruct justice to protect a suspected criminal is pretty low, even for them.

Some of them were chest-thumping supporters of Trump's attempted coup. 

[Maithanet]

Trump's lawyer Evan Corcoran will be testifying on Friday in the classified documents case.  The dc city moved incredibly fast on this.  The trump lawyers appealed to delay things and the court was having none of it, set some aggressive deadlines.

The bar to pierce attorney client provided is pretty high. To have done this so quickly indicated it's something big.  Some speculation that Corcoran has audio tapes of Trump discussing these matters.