Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 This is me: setting an alert on my phone; 14 March 2028... I can confirm that I've seen some of these films in the last five years. Since when is "generally bizarre" a negative in itself? I've seen some pretty amazing stuff that could definitely fall under, "generally bizarre". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I don't think I'll watch Everything again this decade. Twice is more than enough for now. But Shapiro is an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Anyway we got a very impressive Oscars competition next year , nothing insipid as these few years. And not just the excess of big names but next gen auteurs and thespians too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I reckon I will watch EEAAO pretty regularly, it's just too much fun not to, even if its just jumping into certain scenes. However, I don't know why anyone would think 'Oh I'd love to watch The Shape of Water again'' or 'Birdman, that was so enjoyable, lets sit and watch it again!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annara Snow Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) It's interesting to see EEAAO provoke such visceral reactions. I guess that makes me unusual, because really enjoyed it, but didn't love it However, its win makes me happy because it's one of the more original movies that have won Best Picture. It doesn't make me as happy as the Parasite or Moonlight win, because I really loved those, but it's a good sign. But it's sad that other movies didn't get anything. At least they could have given Original screenplay to Triangle of Sadness or one of the supporting acting awards to The Banshees of Inisherin, etc. It feels like the only reason any other movie got a major category award is because EEAAO couldn't be nominated in those categories to begin with (lead actor and, obviously, adapted screenplay). Even though I'm not the movie's #1 fan, I have to say: if complaining about the "Marvelization of movies" is what negative criticism of EEAAO is based on, it's very poor criticism that completely misses the mark. Whoever says that clearly doesn't understand why people have a problem with the dominance of Marvel movies. No, it's not because of people having superpowers, or SciFi themes like time travel and AUs. It's because Marvel movies are overall rather samey and unchallenging and limited by the studio demands and commercial concerns (even the more original of them have to stick to certain rules and demands). That's what the problem is, and that's why Scorsese said they were like theme parks more than films. But that's definitely not the case with EEAAO. No one can accuse it of lacking originality. Edited March 15 by Annara Snow Poobah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 hours ago, Heartofice said: However, I don't know why anyone would think 'Oh I'd love to watch The Shape of Water again'' or 'Birdman, that was so enjoyable, lets sit and watch it again!' I would, for the sheer value of cinematic experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mladen Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 I honestly am in two minds regarding EEAAO. On one hand, I do recognize originality and I can sense the difference in the way AMPAS voted. I think we can say small passion project won, we can say something unorthodox, original won over several classic Oscar baity movies. I do believe it has potential to become this generation movie, the one that may change the game. However, it should be noted I don't believe it will happen over night, and I am still not convinced whether this is the result of those "The Shape of Water" and "Parasite" game-changing victories, or if this is a whole new thing, standing on its own. I belong to the camp "I liked it, didn't love it", as @Annara Snow said. That said, us Europeans were always less inclined to fall for a movie like this, which is also reflected in box office (70% US, 30% international speaks that it is very US-centric movie). In comparison, international BO for "Banshees" and "TAR" is circa 70%. So, it is always amusing how European-centric audience is less thrilled about EEAAO than American. And I am not sure EEAAO as movie caused visceral reaction. I mean, Shapiro is more inclined to throw hate at Hollywood for being what they are. I doubt it has more with EEAAO than Hollwood's liberal views and proving the point people don't remember the movies as they used to. Shapiro most certainly is not alone in this and it is not like right-wing opinion that Oscar movies are doing terrible with the audience and that they are forgotten as soon as Oscar season is over. Time has not been exactly kind to the previous 10-15 Best Picture winners. One can argue that it is reflection of Hollywood making Oscar season an entire "horserace" where studios, producers, directors and actors all get involved into this very dirty game. The last two weeks of the season is usually filled with all sorts of "gloves off" behavior (case in point: Michelle Yeoh's Instagram post about history-making victory for her and the fact Cate Blanchett already has two Oscars). I wonder if things would change with shorter season, less precursors and critics doing their job and not trying to predict Oscars. Another big criticism is that AMPAS allowed themselves to get carried away with narrative voting. Those are always good in terms of a specific moment but rarely ages well. It will also depend what Daniels and the winning actors continue to do. I can see Daniels failing hard with some quirky, outlandish movie they make in the future. We'll see how actors will use their Oscars... I think Fraser is most likely to get nominated again (he is already in Scorsese's new movie that will premiere at Cannes). I hear some rumors that Disney wants this year's Oscar winners in acting categories at their roster. And while I am not sure about it, the idea of Ke Huy Quan doing some remake of Indiana Jones, or perhaps spin-off, does sound interesting. And I know we talked a lot about winners and losers, but if I was sad about one loss below-the-line it is that Justin Hurwitz lost the Oscar for Best Score. His music is so beautiful and I hate how he got caught up in AMPAS' total rejection of Babylon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) I watched Banshees and recognized it as a well made well acted film… but… I do not understand why it was marketed as a comedy. That was a dark drama if it was anything. There was nothing funny in that film. Edited March 15 by Ser Scot A Ellison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Birdman is when my personal tracker says that the academy started to really go off the rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterfell is Burning Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 54 minutes ago, Cas Stark said: Birdman is when my personal tracker says that the academy started to really go off the rails. I don't think the Academy was ever on rails to begin with Annara Snow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cas Stark Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 7 minutes ago, Winterfell is Burning said: I don't think the Academy was ever on rails to begin with Possibly. They did after all award Around the World in 80 Days with a best picture win, and Judy Holiday beat Bette Davis in All about Eve and Gloria Swanson in Sunset Blvd. for best actress and that was back in the 50s. However, the crop of best picture winners over the last 10 years must be the weakest stretch in film history, not completely the fault of the academy voters, but still. CODA? Spotlight? Birdman? Nomadland? That's a weak stretch. Annara Snow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: There was nothing funny in that film. Surely you exaggerate: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 58 minutes ago, Ran said: Surely you exaggerate: Well… I… didn’t find it funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 22 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Well… I… didn’t find it funny. Not even the scene in the confessional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, Ran said: Not even the scene in the confessional? Maybe a little… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 It had a donkey in it. That is enough to create humour by itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 28 minutes ago, Heartofice said: It had a donkey in it. That is enough to create humour by itself. I felt really bad for the donkey… Cas Stark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I felt really bad for the donkey… This is not about US politics. Ormond, Ser Scot A Ellison and Winterfell is Burning 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 12 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I felt really bad for the donkey… "Ah, Jenny." Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 I'm glad our king Del Toro won something even though I haven't even seen the movie TheLastWolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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