The Bard of Banefort Posted July 28, 2023 Author Share Posted July 28, 2023 I mentioned this a week or two ago in the MCU thread but this might be a better place for it. I haven’t watched Secret Invasion, but I keep hearing it’s a dud. With three high profile flops in a row (Terminator, Star Wars, and now Marvel) does this make Emilia the least lucky actor alive or the most lucky? Starring in three previously unassailable franchises is genuinely incredible, yet she still keeps getting cast in them, so she must be doing something right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 The end of an era: https://watchersonthewall.com/watch-ended/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Arthurs Dawn Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 On 7/28/2023 at 11:59 AM, The Bard of Banefort said: I mentioned this a week or two ago in the MCU thread but this might be a better place for it. I haven’t watched Secret Invasion, but I keep hearing it’s a dud. With three high profile flops in a row (Terminator, Star Wars, and now Marvel) does this make Emilia the least lucky actor alive or the most lucky? Starring in three previously unassailable franchises is genuinely incredible, yet she still keeps getting cast in them, so she must be doing something right. Emilia is so effortlessly funny, I'd love to see her in more comedies. Or horror, because I liked her in Voice from the Stone. She's very talented imo, but I feel like casting directors tend to get stuck on an actor's most famous performance and aren't willing to branch out. This is off point, but I'm already seeing an idea being pushed of Emilia's G'iah being "the most powerful being in MCU." Is that accurate? I know they did the same with Captain Marvel. I though the Scarlet Witch was the most powerful. Or perhaps even Thor. I'm not a big fan of Marvel, so I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 (edited) What’s the deal with Cersei telling Catelyn that she and Robert lost a black-haired child once? Many show watchers were thrown off by this and believed for a long time that Jon Snow was actually that child. Edited October 15, 2023 by Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Prince of the North and Jaenara Belarys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 6:17 AM, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: What’s the deal with Cersei telling Catelyn that she and Robert lost a black-haired child once? Many show watchers were thrown off by this and believed for a long time that Jon Snow was actually that child. I think they just included it to humanize Cersei, then basically retconned it when they decided to include the Maggy the Frog prophecy. Originally they didn’t want to do any flashbacks. BlackLightning and Takiedevushkikakzvezdy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/17/2023 at 5:36 PM, The Bard of Banefort said: I think they just included it to humanize Cersei, then basically retconned it when they decided to include the Maggy the Frog prophecy. Originally they didn’t want to do any flashbacks. They were desperate to whitewash the Lannisters. BlackLightning and kissdbyfire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted October 29, 2023 Share Posted October 29, 2023 On 10/15/2023 at 6:17 AM, Takiedevushkikakzvezdy said: What’s the deal with Cersei telling Catelyn that she and Robert lost a black-haired child once? Many show watchers were thrown off by this and believed for a long time that Jon Snow was actually that child. There's also a theory that Cersei is Gendry's mother and she hid him away so that only her children with Jaime would inherit. https://screenrant.com/game-thrones-cersei-gendry-mother-theory-explained/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryk Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 First four seasons were so good. I still have a lot of respect for David Benioff and Dan Weiss even with how they completely dropped the ball at the end. Still can't get over how lazy and ill-conceived season 8 was. So many characters ruined; smart characters (Varrys, Tyrion) made dumb; heroic characters (Jon) made pathetic; characters like Jamie who evolved throughout the series suddenly regressing to season 1 mode. And of course, the ultimate crime, what they did to Dany. Don't give me this "well she killed some slavers and burnt Sam's dad so she was clearly evil all along" BS. The showrunners decided to build her up as this savior throughout the series with her epic theme music, but they supposedly knew what would happen at the end, so they were basically playing a massive prank on the audience. If she becomes more tyrannical in the books then I'm sure it will be better done. Jaenara Belarys and SeanF 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted November 1, 2023 Author Share Posted November 1, 2023 Further proof that, yes, media companies do try to find ways to control the narrative online: https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/hbo-casey-bloys-secret-twitter-trolls-tv-critics-leaked-texts-lawsuit-the-idol-1234867722/ The first example cited is from 2020, which makes me think that the GOT backlash probably played a direct role in creating this strategy. BlackLightning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takiedevushkikakzvezdy Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 On 10/29/2023 at 3:48 PM, Angel Eyes said: There's also a theory that Cersei is Gendry's mother and she hid him away so that only her children with Jaime would inherit. Considering that nothing ever came out of it throughout the show’s entire run, I don’t think that this theory is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 4, 2023 Share Posted November 4, 2023 On 10/31/2023 at 3:49 PM, Darryk said: First four seasons were so good. I still have a lot of respect for David Benioff and Dan Weiss even with how they completely dropped the ball at the end. Still can't get over how lazy and ill-conceived season 8 was. So many characters ruined; smart characters (Varrys, Tyrion) made dumb; heroic characters (Jon) made pathetic; characters like Jamie who evolved throughout the series suddenly regressing to season 1 mode. And of course, the ultimate crime, what they did to Dany. Don't give me this "well she killed some slavers and burnt Sam's dad so she was clearly evil all along" BS. The showrunners decided to build her up as this savior throughout the series with her epic theme music, but they supposedly knew what would happen at the end, so they were basically playing a massive prank on the audience. If she becomes more tyrannical in the books then I'm sure it will be better done. Dany didn’t even have to be tyrannical, to be an antagonist to the Starks, based upon their differing political goals. A conflict doesn’t have to be a fight between good and evil. If say, you made a series around the Waterloo campaign, you could make all of Napoleon, Wellington, Blucher, and Ney, and their soldiers, fairly sympathetic, without the need to demonise any of them. But that would good writing and characterisation, rather than showrunners just wanting to “subvert expectations.” The Bard of Banefort, Jaenara Belarys, Darryk and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 On 11/4/2023 at 7:08 AM, SeanF said: Dany didn’t even have to be tyrannical, to be an antagonist to the Starks, based upon their differing political goals. A conflict doesn’t have to be a fight between good and evil. If say, you made a series around the Waterloo campaign, you could make all of Napoleon, Wellington, Blucher, and Ney, and their soldiers, fairly sympathetic, without the need to demonise any of them. But that would good writing and characterisation, rather than showrunners just wanting to “subvert expectations.” I don't imagine Daenerys being reasonable with the Starks, she already shouted down Barristan's attempt to reason with her on that score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaenara Belarys Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said: I don't imagine Daenerys being reasonable with the Starks, she already shouted down Barristan's attempt to reason with her on that score. Sure, she might not be reasonable from our armchair, but I can see a (more nuanced) conflict over Dany ruling in the South, wanting the North (and conflict between Arya/Sansa and Jon) and the White Walkers showing up. The White Walkers should be playing a big role in pushing them to try and ally with anyone with a big army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 17 minutes ago, Angel Eyes said: I don't imagine Daenerys being reasonable with the Starks, she already shouted down Barristan's attempt to reason with her on that score. People have different ideas of reasonable. The Starks could see Northern independence as reasonable. She might see the head of House Stark giving her fealty, in return for being granted rule over the North, as reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackLightning Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 2:13 PM, Angel Eyes said: I don't imagine Daenerys being reasonable with the Starks, she already shouted down Barristan's attempt to reason with her on that score. She did not shout down Barristan's attempts to reason with her Barristan's attempts to reason with her were weak and he gave up. Barristan doesn't actually get a backbone until he agrees to help overthrow Hizdahr. On 11/12/2023 at 2:33 PM, SeanF said: People have different ideas of reasonable. The Starks could see Northern independence as reasonable. She might see the head of House Stark giving her fealty, in return for being granted rule over the North, as reasonable. Not even that It could be something as trivial as Dany wanting Jon to go out on progresses with her all the time while the Starks want Jon to spend more time with them at home. This kind of stuff (unfortunately) happens in families all the time. And it almost always descends into a resentful "why are you even with her anyways, she is _____" or "they are using you so that they can ______" or "he told me that you ______" And then before you know it, what would've been a lovely Christmas dinner turns into a bloody UFC cage-fight. SeanF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted January 22 Author Share Posted January 22 I was reading some excerpts from a recent interview Sophie Turner did, and it’s interesting how she seems to have some regrets about being a child star. I wonder if other former child actors feel the same way? https://x.com/badpost_sophiet/status/1749003971237216664?s=46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 If I'm not mistaken, I do believe all those photos from the very young cast at a bookshop event were taken by @Werthead. The Bard of Banefort 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 44 minutes ago, Ran said: If I'm not mistaken, I do believe all those photos from the very young cast at a bookshop event were taken by @Werthead. I think one of them was, the others were by the person standing next to me. The Bard of Banefort and Ran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just looking at Jaime and Bronn from the Porne plot and they look like extras from the Life of Brian. BlackLightning and The Bard of Banefort 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard of Banefort Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 (edited) Looking back at the Tamzin Merchant recasting mystery, I would guess that the most likely reason she was replaced was probably just that she wanted more money. It would explain why everyone was so cagey about the recasting (salaries aren’t something that’s really discussed publicly), and why the other “established actresses” who were offered the role before Emilia turned it down. Pretty much all of the young cast in season one were unknowns who likely weren’t getting paid much by Hollywood standards. (And just speaking from my own experience in the job market, I have definitely noticed that the lower I put my “desired salary” on a job application, the more likely I am to get an interview. I’ve heard similar things from other people.) Edited February 4 by The Bard of Banefort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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