Relic Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 9 hours ago, Fez said: What's the point of posting anything? Just fodder for thought/discussion. Weird logic. I'd rather discuss things that are rooted in reality instead of random conspiracy theory xyz, especially when it applies to the deeply sensitive topic being discussed. By the way, did you know that some people claim humanity has never left Earths gravity well, and that all of space exploration is fiction? Isn't that interesting? Crixus and Zorral 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 Reportedly 80k Gazans self-evacuated from North Gaza today per reporting of Israel COGAT source. Not sure on the veracity but it is being reported by CNN. In addition, 125 trucks of aid went through today, with the aim (per Biden) of going to 150. Death toll is close to 11,000 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueMetis Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Half of all journalists reporting from Gaza dead. *Half*. Edited November 10, 2023 by TrueMetis Tears of Lys, Craving Peaches, Crixus and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 hour ago, TrueMetis said: Half of all journalists reporting from Gaza dead. *Half*. 39 according to CPJ. For reference, that's roughly half the number of journalists killed in Afghanistan... between 1992 and 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) The UN Secretary General said something was wrong with the number of civilian casualties in the military operation (too high). https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/reuters-next-un-chief-says-gaza-deaths-show-something-wrong-with-israel-2023-11-08/ In a similar manner, I think something is wrong with the number of journalists dead. I do not think this can just be explained by the population density in Gaza or whatever. Especially with reports of journalists seemingly being targeted. RSF says ten journalists were killed while 'clearly covering the news'. https://rsf.org/en/israelpalestine-war-41-journalists-more-one-day-killed-first-month-israel-palestine-war Quote Saīd al-Tawil, the editor of local media outlet al-Khamisa, one of its reporters, Hisham al-Nawajha, and Khabar photojournalist Mohammad Sobboh were killed by a strike while covering the war three days later, on 10 October. That same evening, four other journalists were killed by strikes in their homes, along with members of their families 7 journalists or associates killed by strikes in the same day? Edited November 10, 2023 by Craving Peaches kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 hours ago, TrueMetis said: Half of all journalists reporting from Gaza dead. *Half*. I wonder if in another 5 weeks, there will be no more journalists reporting from Gaza. I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daeron the Daring Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: I think something is wrong with the number of journalists dead. Yes, but have you considered the fact that Hamas wants to kill every jew? Why doesn't that bother you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 4 hours ago, TrueMetis said: Half of all journalists reporting from Gaza dead. *Half*. I’ve searched today’s, Friday Nov. 10 NYT, and there is no mention of this special issue on the front page. Nor in the very long list of articles they list. I’ve googled various versions of “NYT says it has blood on it’s hands” and nothing comes up. I’ve Googled “NYT Nov. 11 2023 special edition” and nothing comes up. Do you have a better link than this guy? Is this for real? If the NYT has announced it had “blood on its hands”, and this guy has an advanced copy of the front page, why doesn’t every newspaper in the US and Canada have a front page story about it? In that list of journalists, why aren’t the papers or news organizations or broadcast networks they are affiliated with listed beside their names? Don't you think if the NYT announced it was responsible for their deaths they just opened themselves up to hundred million dollar lawsuits from the families? Tears of Lys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 It's a fake parody paper. The claim it makes about the NYT "inciting enthusiasm" is absurd nonsense. Fragile Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Craving Peaches said: 7 journalists or associates killed by strikes in the same day? Nope, not suspicious at all. Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 8 hours ago, Kalbear said: Reportedly 80k Gazans self-evacuated from North Gaza today per reporting of Israel COGAT source. That makes ~150k evacuated since they started this process. That's like half of the total people said to be in northern Gaza prior to that, if I remember right. It will no doubt start tapering off, but it feels like it'll be less than a week before the only people left are Hamas militants and the few who really can't move, or are forced to stay put by Hamas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 The end of Gaza's most beautiful neighbourhood (bbc.co.uk) Quote But overnight, Israeli bombs had flattened 25 apartment blocks, home to many hundreds of people. See, this confuses me. Why did 25 apartment blocks (in this instance) need to be levelled (supposedly half of all homes in the strip have been damaged)? I find it hard to believe that Hamas is using them all to store weapons, they cannot all be obscuring tunnel entrances. Do they count as 'Hamas infrastructure' just because Hamas might be able to use them, even if they aren't currently using them? If so, every building in the strip could be a target. Quote The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) told us it was “unable to answer specific operative questions” when asked about its decision to strike al-Zahra’s residential blocks. Hamas was attacking Israel from across the Gaza Strip and had “embedded itself in civilian infrastructure”, it added. It has not named any Hamas operative killed in the strikes on al-Zahra, and it is believed that nobody died. Crixus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 (edited) Al-Shifa hospital has reportedly been struck. There are some graphic images. Edited November 10, 2023 by Craving Peaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Quote Still no sign of military pauses in Gaza Strip There have been no immediate reports of a lull in fighting in northern Gaza, despite the US saying yesterday that Israel had agreed to begin four-hour daily military pauses to allow civilians to flee. Source: BBC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted November 10, 2023 Author Share Posted November 10, 2023 ‘You Started a War, You’ll Get a Nakba’ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/israel-settlers-violence-netanyahu-government/675755/# Ran and Crixus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Relic said: Weird logic. I'd rather discuss things that are rooted in reality instead of random conspiracy theory xyz, especially when it applies to the deeply sensitive topic being discussed. By the way, did you know that some people claim humanity has never left Earths gravity well, and that all of space exploration is fiction? Isn't that interesting? If it's false, it's noteworthy that the group felt the need to make the accusation. Just like liberals share the weird, false accusations that Trump, MTG, Boebert, et al make all the time. And if it's true, it's obviously a big deal in it's own right. Either way, it garnered enough attention that the media orgs felt the need that they had to respond. https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/media/2023/11/09/cnn-ap-photographer-hamas/ Quote CNN, the Associated Press, Reuters and the New York Times, which all published photographs by the freelancers, denied any advance warning of the attack. But CNN and the AP chose to cut ties with Hassan Eslaiah, one of the freelancers, though they did not specify why. Eslaiah got extra emphasis in the HonestReporting story, which resurfaced a several-years-old photo of him posing with Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 55 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: Al-Shifa hospital has reportedly been struck. There are some graphic images. If that's the one with the poor guy losing a leg, it was terrible luck -- footage from a second phone showing someone being removed from a car also shows it was an empty 155mm illumination round casing. Unfortunately, what goes up must come down, and now that they're operating closer to the hospital it's likelier that unintended casings from illumination rounds are going to fall in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 42 minutes ago, Ran said: If that's the one with the poor guy losing a leg, it was terrible luck No, it was an image supposedly from the outpatient clinic which showed lots of bodies and blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ran Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, Craving Peaches said: No, it was an image supposedly from the outpatient clinic which showed lots of bodies and blood. Not familiar with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Reports that people fleeing on the designated road were attacked by Israeli forces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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