US Politics: The Bully Culprit

[DireWolfSpirit]

Also Kristi Noem(sp) is a nasty lowlife regardless so no im defending her, just talking about some farm realities.

[DireWolfSpirit]

1 minute ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Also Kristi Noem(sp) is a nasty lowlife regardless so no im defending her, just talking about some farm realities.

Not defending meant!

I wish this forum would fix the damn 431 bullsht so I could properlt edit posts again!

[Fragile Bird]

Ok, the dog’s name was Cricket, and he killed the neighbor’s chickens. She doesn’t seem to brag about it, she just presents herself as a person who can deal with reality. Then she apologized to the neighbors with the chickens, helped them clean up the mess and wrote out a check for the damages.

That seems pretty straight forward.What I hear in my mind: “ hey guys, I can kill dogs and goats without getting emotional about it and you can bet I could kill North Koreans, Russians, and whoever else needs killing (like maybe people crossing the border illegally).” The latter might be me going overboard but, hey, she can do the tough jobs.

[JGP]

3 minutes ago, Fragile Bird said:

That seems pretty straight forward.What I hear in my mind: “ hey guys, I can kill dogs and goats without getting emotional about it and you can bet I could kill North Koreans, Russians, and whoever else needs killing (like maybe people crossing the border illegally).” The latter might be me going overboard but, hey, she can do the tough jobs.

Messaging seems apparent, I don't fret about when tough choices need to be made. The problem, is dog lovers know little *partisanship and the instance chosen to exemplify it makes her look like an uncaring donkey to both sides.

 

*despite how the woke/anti-woke clown parade has infiltrated the dog training sphere

[SeanF]

50 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

She got the dog with one shot.  It was later on during her killing spree of the same day,  that she decided to also shoot a 'dirty' goat, and so she took the goat to the killing field, er, gravel pit, and shot it, but had to go back for a second shot.

I will grant that things are a little different in the West and on farms, but the idea that it is 1) common  2) badass to shoot your own PUPPY because apparently you failed to train a high prey drive dog to behave is insane.  She was crazy to have thought this revelation would give her some kind of credibility with conservative voters.  

It ended Jeremy Thorpe’s political career.

”Rinka lives.  Woof, woof! Vote Waugh, if you believe dogs enjoy the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

Edited April 30 by SeanF

[A Horse Named Stranger]

39 minutes ago, DireWolfSpirit said:

Thats the sad end for for some farm animals, these people arent driving in 30 miles to hire a vet with a needle, they feel the end of life responsibility is thiers I think.

Altho, whether that's more humane than a bullet (when done properly) is up for discussion imo.

I'll share a story from a co-ed who worked as Vet's assistant, before she attended University. Don't worry, no dogs involved. For the cat lovers, I can assure you no dogs were harmed. Anyway...

Family comes in with their cat. They walk in, the vet gives the feline a shot with the needle, and leads them out. Vet assistant stayed back. The cat starts twitching, which kinda freaked the vet assistant, who went out of the treatment room slightly panicked. Doctor, quick, the cat's twitching. The Doctor, who was talking with the family turns on her. And scolds her for being incosiderate, as he was still talking to the family who had to come in to have their cat put down. Yeah, turns out, the cat was to be euthanized, and the vet didn't share this information with his assistant, who thought the cat was having a reaction to anesthesia.

Again, no dogs were harmed, but the cat was certainly dead however.

[kissdbyfire]

Moral of the story: vets can be arseholes too! 

[Cas Stark]

Comparing what this insane bitch did to a farmer or anyone putting a sick or infirm animal out of pain by shooting it, seems to miss the mark.  By her own admission the 14 month old dog was happy and peppy, and had just had a great day 'ruining' her pheasant hunt.  This dog wasn't sick, infirm or needing a vet.  The dog needed either a trainer or a new home, not a bullet in a gravel pit.  RIP Cricket.  And the goat she also shot for being 'dirty' and 'mean'.  Farming and dog ownership, like governing, not for everyone. 

[A Horse Named Stranger]

8 minutes ago, Cas Stark said:

Comparing what this insane bitch did to a farmer or anyone putting a sick or infirm animal out of pain by shooting it, seems to miss the mark.  By her own admission the 14 month old dog was happy and peppy, and had just had a great day 'ruining' her pheasant hunt.  This dog wasn't sick, infirm or needing a vet.  The dog needed either a trainer or a new home, not a bullet in a gravel pit.  RIP Cricket.  And the goat she also shot for being 'dirty' and 'mean'.  Farming and dog ownership, like governing, not for everyone. 

Obviously. But that was not the point, tho. Point was the question whether it is better/more humane to use the lethal injection to end the suffering of a sick and suffering animal than a bullet.

Noem putting a perfectly healthy pup down is beyond the pale. And her needing to walk back to her car, because her first shot did not kill that goat is also not in the humane category. I mean, if you are in the DIY animal killing category you should at least be prepared for the possibility of your first shot missing and then be prepared to put the poor creature out of its suffering ASAP.

 

[Cas Stark]

43 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said:

Obviously. But that was not the point, tho. Point was the question whether it is better/more humane to use the lethal injection to end the suffering of a sick and suffering animal than a bullet.

Noem putting a perfectly healthy pup down is beyond the pale. And her needing to walk back to her car, because her first shot did not kill that goat is also not in the humane category. I mean, if you are in the DIY animal killing category you should at least be prepared for the possibility of your first shot missing and then be prepared to put the poor creature out of its suffering ASAP.

 

We have the vets comes to the house now to spare the animal the stress of a car ride and vet visit for end of life drugs.  But this option isn't available everywhere and is also more costly than going to the vet office.

I can see that maybe if I lived out in the country and was a crack shot, that a single bullet to the brain is 'okay' and not stressful to the animal.  It might even be less stressful than a prolonged vet visit, strangers, etc.  Obv. if you have to go back to your car and reload because your first shot didn't do it [RIP goat], then you have no business trying to shoot any animals as a form of euthanasia and maybe you shouldn't be hunting either.  She is just a POS all the way around, any way you look at it, and must be pretty 'crazy' to have thought that this 'anecdote' would win her any points with anyone...farmers, hunters, gun owners, anyone.  

Edited April 30 by Cas Stark

[Zorral]

3 hours ago, Fragile Bird said:

I could kill North Koreans, Russians, and whoever else needs killing (like maybe people crossing the border illegally).”

No NO NO! Not Russians!  They are her friends and role models to MAGA!  Also they are paying her monies in some form or another.  Recall, she's also made South Dakota an offshore tax haven, a good place to hide your assets and finances.

[Zorral]

Kristi Noem doubled down on dog-killing to win over MAGA — now her story is backfiring in her face
South Dakota's governor gets the sadism of Trump supporters, but screws up by saying the quiet parts out loud
By AMANDA MARCOTTE
Senior Writer

https://www.salon.com/2024/04/30/kristi-noem-doubled-down-on-dog-to-win-over-maga--now-her-story-is-backfiring-in-her-face/

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.... This, too, is unlikely to work, for one simple reason: Noem forgot the first rule of fascist Fight Club – you never show your true face to outsiders.

Noem was right that her story perfectly illustrates the sadistic ethos of the MAGA movement. Killing a dog for being inconvenient follows the same logic as forcing women to give birth or shooting Black Lives Matter protesters or setting up concentration camps to imprison refugees from Central America. (All policy ideas Trump has proposed or enacted.) In every case, the MAGA view is straightforward: absolute submission from those deemed "lesser" than you, or maximum punishment. 

A reminder to the rest of MAGA: Always pretend your malice serves a higher cause. 

Where Noem failed, however, is in saying the quiet part out loud. Most fascists, including Trump, understand that you don't just come out and say that you embrace violence against those who can't fight back. Instead, the MAGA trick is to reframe your intended victims as a threat, so you can pretend your cruelty is self-defense. The scared migrants fleeing political violence are recast as "invaders" coming to rape and murder Americans. The teen rape victim is reimagined as a murderous trollop who loves to kill babies. LGBTQ people who want rights are accused of being "groomers." Protesters being beaten up by police are accused of being dangerous "thugs." And so on.  ....

 

 

[Zorral]

This is the time of day WKCR does its long broadcast on the Columbia University Protests.

I haven't been up there in a few days -- not allowed.  

In the meantime at this time, today, the police have even blocked off Broadway up there to cars.  They are preparing for a big action, which means breaking into Hamilton Hall and breaking heads, while the students will be suspended or expelled, and arrested.

The real problems, as it has been all along, are the peripheral groups who aren't students, but all sorts of chancers and exploiter and opportunists,  and -- including, o Lordessa, Proud Boys though very few.  NYC is deeply inhospitable to those ilks.  Deeply.

In between reports they play Coltrane.

And Brown (didn't Amy Carrter go there?) agrees to meetings to discuss divestment.  Brown was founded by funding from one of the Brown brothers, the one who was anti-slave trade and abolitionist.

ETA: Schools of helicopters over Washington Square Park, where there is an Action too.

Mayor Adams holding a press conference whose solution is that "Parents, order your kids to come home."

Stinkin' pile love this.  As Adams blathers endlessly, "outside agitators."  Well, ya, the stinkin' pile has outside agitators.

Edited April 30 by Zorral

[Zorral]

BTW, Columbia has the most prestigious journalism journal in the country -- The Columbia Journal of Journalism.  It's journalism program also.

I hope WKRC get at the very least nominate for some sort of journalism award when that season comes 'round.

Amsterdam Ave. is also shut off, which is the essential student access to campus.

Internet doesn't / can't provide anything like this on the ground coverage.

Edited April 30 by Zorral

[Zorral]

Cross walk gathering of 100 cops in anti-terrorism gear, gathered, getting orders. WKCR -- "Things are getting really tense right around here."

 

[JGP]

1 hour ago, Zorral said:

No NO NO! Not Russians!  They are her friends and role models to MAGA!  Also they are paying her monies in some form or another.  Recall, she's also made South Dakota an offshore tax haven, a good place to hide your assets and finances.

Where's the disgust emote. 

[Zorral]

WKCR's field -- i.e. on the ground reporters -- can't get back into campus, and the radio stations, despite one of the gates being about 10 feet from the building in which the station is located. W/O cell fones none of this would be possible.

Evidently there is a multitude of student reporters all around, not just from Columbia.  Woo.

I have learned that the vaunted much headlined "Breaking of Windows" on Columbia University were by the protesters in the barricaded Hamilton Hall, which is the cops' target.  They broke a window on the first floor to get access in some way to seriously barricade the doors of the building.  I don't understand this, to be honest, but the students seem to.

 

 

 

[Dawn Vibration]

2 hours ago, Zorral said:

This is the time of day WKCR does its long broadcast on the Columbia University Protests.

I haven't been up there in a few days -- not allowed.  

In the meantime at this time, today, the police have even blocked off Broadway up there to cars.  They are preparing for a big action, which means breaking into Hamilton Hall and breaking heads, while the students will be suspended or expelled, and arrested.

The real problems, as it has been all along, are the peripheral groups who aren't students, but all sorts of chancers and exploiter and opportunists,  and -- including, o Lordessa, Proud Boys though very few.  NYC is deeply inhospitable to those ilks.  Deeply.

In between reports they play Coltrane.

And Brown (didn't Amy Carrter go there?) agrees to meetings to discuss divestment.  Brown was founded by funding from one of the Brown brothers, the one who was anti-slave trade and abolitionist.

ETA: Schools of helicopters over Washington Square Park, where there is an Action too.

Mayor Adams holding a press conference whose solution is that "Parents, order your kids to come home."

Stinkin' pile love this.  As Adams blathers endlessly, "outside agitators."  Well, ya, the stinkin' pile has outside agitators.

Adams is such a sack of shit.

[ThinkerX]

Had to kill a dog back in the homestead days. Dog pretty much went feral, killed chickens, and some other people's pets, and started after the kids. This was a long time ago on the edge of civilization. 

Edited May 1 by ThinkerX

[Zorral]

9:10 EDST PM: NYPL cops in riot gear converging upon Hamilton Hall. They have encircled the West Lawn (where the encampment is/was) as well. Carrying batons. 100 students trained in non-violent protest have chained themselves together as a human barrier to Hamilton Hall, which is barricaded with every bit of furniture that was in it, and the protesters renamed the building for a 6 year old girl murdered in Gaza.

Many events happening at once at the moment.  More bystanders of various sorts, but the WKCR people think most of them are press. Being cleared by the cops.  No spectators are left now. The WKCR reporters are kinda trapped, don't know where to go.

Arrests happening on Amsterdam Ave.  The cops are all over Butler Library, my place! Cops are telling every student to leave the campus, but it is locked down, and so are their residences.  Nobody knows where to go, this means students who aren't protesters, faculty, etc.

This is so different from say, the video coverage by CBS NYC News.  https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nypd-moves-in-columbia-university-student-protests/

Unconscious student on the ground.

Not just the WKCR people, but all press, and everyone else, is being 'escorted' out of the area of action. The cops are going in the windows of the Hall.

Ironically the WKCR people are being barred from Pulitzer Hall (you all know why and why Pulitzer, right?) by the NYPD.  Massive NYPD presence everywhere.  The cops have a "ladder thing" through which they are entering the third floor of Hamilton Hall windows, while sledge hammering the doors on the ground. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_Hall_(Columbia_University)

I realize suddenly that you all don't know shy they chose this building: https://operations.cufo.columbia.edu/content/hamilton-hall

WKCR's live stream is rather dying -- recall, "home of technical difficulty".  There should be an alternative live stream going up. But we're listening on actual radio, on FM.

WKCRlivestreamoncompus should get the live stream  but radio broadcast working.

Arrests happening from Hamilton.

The WKCR people are now reporting from Pulitzer Hall!  Ha!  They are receiving videos from other students of some very brutal arrests of students on ground, handcuffed etc.

 

 

Edited May 1 by Zorral