honorable men Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Don't think its going to look too favorable for Robb Stark. but to the Northerners, they won't ever be able sit comfortably until every guilty party pays their fair share. Including the suspicious quick pardoning (Goodbrook, Moote etc) by the Crown. Everyone might be viewed as a culprit. Severing ties below the Neck and only interacting with the rest of the 7k until its absolutely necessary for generations to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRANDON GREYSTARK Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 THE YOUNG WOLF …. The king who won all his battles and lost the war in a woman's chamber . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotting sea cow Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Yes. They killed Lord Eddard and Lady Catelyn and King Robb. He was our king! He was brave and good and the Freys murdered him. - Wylla Manderly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Claude Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Dying young and tragically will do wonders for your reputation and legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honorable men Posted September 19, 2018 Author Share Posted September 19, 2018 I'm also talking about the repercussions long term. Its going to take a lot more than a stark-targaryen riding down south to the riverlands, westerlands and the reach and burning them all. Obviously, Tywin, Walder, Spicer, Bolton haven't thought about Northern people and their good memory. But for now, they might as well their number or ravens because they arent going to pick up for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 If Robb had just been defeated in war his legacy might have been unfavourable, but the manner of his death — being sacrilegiously betrayed and murdered along with so many of his men — will ensure that he is remembered as a martyr. Particularly since his siblings/cousin will obviously promote his memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Three-Fingered Pete Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Quote How will Robb Stark be remembered as in the long line of Stark Kings (and Lords)? As with any history, it largely depends on who wins. If the Starks are the Yorks of this saga, then not very well. If the Starks are the Lancasters of this saga then they will have faires celebrating their contributions to society, culture and civilization five hundred years later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon The Black Dragon Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Robb will be remembered as the King who lost the North to some and to others he'll be remembered as the Young Wolf, who never lost a battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moiraine Sedai Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 10 hours ago, honorable men said: Don't think its going to look too favorable for Robb Stark. but to the Northerners, they won't ever be able sit comfortably until every guilty party pays their fair share. Including the suspicious quick pardoning (Goodbrook, Moote etc) by the Crown. Everyone might be viewed as a culprit. Severing ties below the Neck and only interacting with the rest of the 7k until its absolutely necessary for generations to come. In the north, the Lord of winterfell who rebelled and lost. Everywhere else, a rebel lord who lost. Sort of like Balon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 Robb could be remembered like Alexander the Great. He conquered Riverlands and sacked Westlands and won many battles. But he died young and his empire did not survive his death and his own bloodline ended when his wife and son were murdered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 The current generations of Northerners, such as his family and the vassal Lords who fought beside him, for the most part will probably look at him favorably. But many generations down the line when there is no biased person left who knew Robb personally, he will probably be seen as one of the worst Kings in the history of the Kings of Winter. He is literally the first Stark to loose not only the North, but Winterfell, the Stark ancestral home. He also broke a marriage pact with one of his Lords to marry the daughter of a minor House, whose family where vassals to his biggest enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euron III Greyjoy Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Loose Bolt said: his own bloodline ended when his wife and son were murdered. He never had a son, and his wife is still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hodorisfaclessman Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 8 hours ago, Canon Claude said: Dying young and tragically will do wonders for your reputation and legacy. This And winning battles and having a magic wolf cant hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon The Black Dragon Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, EloImFizzy said: He never had a son, and his wife is still alive. I'm guessing he was talking about Alexander the Great there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Universal Sword Donor Posted September 19, 2018 Share Posted September 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Canon Claude said: Dying young and tragically will do wonders for your reputation and legacy. Come on, it's not like there are any examples of this in real life. People like the Black Prince, Henry V, and Joan of Arc have all been properly evaluated by history and in no way, shape, or form have any kind of romantic aura attached to them! As ridiculous as Englishmen speaking French! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sourjapes Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Whatever happens they'll be writing songs about the Young Wolf for another 8 thousand years. Some day, they'll even make big budget movies about it and novelizations that "dramatize" the events. The interesting part will be to see how the story changes over the centuries, which parts get embellished or what events from before, during, or after his time get added into his story. They'll be a Tim Burton-esque version that is more generous to the Frey account, and an animated version Disney Westoros version where he survives the Red Wedding but that's his low moment, but he triumphantly turns the tables on his enemies. Likely a popular version of the tale will be how it wasn't some Westerling he loved, but... a LANNISTER! Only the rest of Lannisters and even Robb's own bannermen and kin couldn't tolerate it, so ironically the two warring families conspired to murder the young lovers just so they could avoid peace and continue to kill each-other. So senseless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foot_Of_The_King Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Daemon The Black Dragon said: Robb will be remembered as the King who lost the North to some and to others he'll be remembered as the Young Wolf, who never lost a battle. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legitimate_Bastard Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 6:53 AM, Canon Claude said: Dying young and tragically will do wonders for your reputation and legacy. This. The Young Wolf will be remembered heroically and used as an example of how wars can be lost off of the battlefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Suburbs Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Ultimately, I think he'll just become a footnote in history: the Young Wolf who dared for a kingdom and lost. But, granted, that's more than what most Stark lords get, including Ned. If he had won, of course, he would go down as a major historical figure, at least in the north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugorfonics Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 The war of 5 kings is the biggest and most significant occurrence in Westeros history; Robb was the most interesting character, if not from his flawless record or riding by Greywind, then by his staggering betryal and death. If Robbs kingdom survives he'll be remembered as a hero, if Tommens/Roose does he'd be a topic of great controversy. Of course all likelyhood is that the maesters will erase Robb from history faster then the Others would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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