NonoNono Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Skills said: I thought it was a true bittersweet ending. Especially as it relates to Jon's character. He essentially saves the world, but nobody will ever know about it or his true lineage. Yes, he never wanted the throne and he deep down probably wanted to stay in the North anyway. But there was still a sadness to his ending. He will carry that burden of having killed his lover. I wouldn't quite call him a broken man, but close. Well they'll only never know because apparently everyone is keeping quiet about it. And have no reason to, the dumb Unsullied sailed off. Bran could kill them all off anyway. Warg an iceberg or whatever. Edited May 20, 2019 by NonoNono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Lannister Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Danelle said: Arya was the only character i wad really never invested to but she never seemed to care about wanderlust. She always seemed to care about her pack. Her closure seemed the most directionless of all the main characters. Her clichéd "hero strikes off alone to go see the world" ending felt like such an afterthought, like they had no idea what to really do with her. The One Who Kneels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
of man and wolf Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, robasp2 said: Pathetic episode. A joke of a small council. Logic thrown out of the window To be honest all the other small councils were jokes. At least now you'll have men not vying to one up each other and thinking of the common folk etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptajn Congoboy Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, hallam said: The reason to read the books was never to find out the end. What is much more interesting is the beginning. I have always felt most stories are about the journey Jaehaerys Tyrell and Lolgotfan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raksha 2014 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 44 minutes ago, TheFirstofHerName said: I thought it was a good episode. The scene with Jon and Daenerys was particularly good. Can’t help but wonder where Drogon took Daenerys. Also.....did Bran plan or know this all along? I was happy to see Jon reunited with Ghost and going north with the wildlings. It seems odd that Bronn would be Master of Coin. I'm wondering how long it will take before Bronn swindles himself some of that Coin. I'm also wondering where the Coin is coming from. The crown owes a debt to the Iron Bank; House Lannister is bankrupt; isn't Highgarden out of wealth as well? Maybe there's a secret stash in a secret chamber in the depths of RiverRun? Or will Dorne become the new backer of the crown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skills Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Everyone keeps saying the NW doesn't exist but those two crows that escorted Jon seemed pretty official. makchamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raksha 2014 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, robasp2 said: Like you, many will now skip GRRMs books because of the show. Didn't he realize that? Couldn't he have overseen the scripts? GRRM never had veto power over the scripts. I think he was given the option to write some of them, which he did; but stopped because he was supposedly trying to catch up on The Winds of Winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Skills said: Everyone keeps saying the NW doesn't exist but those two crows that escorted Jon seemed pretty official. I think what they're saying is more that there's no real reason for it to exist any more. The wildlings are cool with everyone now and the Night King is dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Lord Varys said: And how the hell does Grey Worm know that Dany got a dagger in the heart? Didn't the dragon fly away with her? And how likely is it that anyone would allow Jon to live after what he pulled if they knew? What is a more sane scenario: Living under Dany who actually has freed people and gone only very far when pushed, or FUCKING BRONN as Master of Coin? I dunno if you had better outrage before, but noticed you posted here and figured I'd respond to annoy you. Why wouldn't Grey Worm know what happened to Dany in terms of her death? You think Jon kept it a secret? Nah, of course he confessed instantly. They didn't need to air that, frankly I'm glad they didn't. As for "allowing Jon to live," uh, he commands the other half of the armies in the city. So killing him would probably be a bad idea. Why that meant he had to go the NW, especially after his sisters showed up? Yeah, it's pretty dumb. But Grey Worm isn't gonna summarily execute him, having the sense not to do that isn't a valid criticism. Bronn as Master of Coin, all day every day. In terms of Dany, the way the show did it? Without doubt. Dany is most likely a tragic character. Jon probably is too, but it seems you need to see somebody about the former. She's not going to "win" in the end, it's time to get over that. Returning to Bronn, why the fuck not? That's a loanshark I don't wanna fuck with. There's a lot of ways to run agencies - the head definitely (and in the US case almost always) does not need to be an expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Rusty Coin Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Bronn has an appointment with the Iron Bank coming up pretty soon. Just a Cat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
of man and wolf Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Pandean said: FINALLY GHOST GETS THE PETS HE DESERVES the pet that was promised. Kyll.Ing., Raksha 2014, thepooperthatwaspromised and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briantw Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, DMC said: I dunno if you had better outrage before, but noticed you posted here and figured I'd respond to annoy you. Why wouldn't Grey Worm know what happened to Dany in terms of her death? You think Jon kept it a secret? Nah, of course he confessed instantly. They didn't need to air that, frankly I'm glad they didn't. As for "allowing Jon to live," uh, he commands the other half of the armies in the city. So killing him would probably be a bad idea. Why that meant he had to go the NW, especially after his sisters showed up? Yeah, it's pretty dumb. But Grey Worm isn't gonna summarily execute him, having the sense not to do that isn't a valid criticism. Bronn as Master of Coin, all day every day. In terms of Dany, the way the show did it? Without doubt. Dany is most likely a tragic character. Jon probably is too, but it seems you need to see somebody about the former. She's not going to "win" in the end, it's time to get over that. Returning to Bronn, why the fuck not? That's a loanshark I don't wanna fuck with. There's a lot of ways to run agencies - the head definitely (and in the US case almost always) does not need to be an expert. Jon should have just said the dragon torched her and fucked off. DMC and Figdoni 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, briantw said: Jon should have just said the dragon torched her and fucked off. Glad you're here for the comic relief. I feel like this thread is currently what D&D love producing - chaotic scenes with lots of explosions and sooo many extras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raksha 2014 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 What happened to the Dothraki? Are they merrily pillaging and raping their way across Westeros, or did they return to Essos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makchamp Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Raksha 2014 said: What happened to the Dothraki? Are they merrily pillaging and raping their way across Westeros, or did they return to Essos? Didn't they get almost wiped out at Winterfell ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Raksha 2014 said: What happened to the Dothraki? Are they merrily pillaging and raping their way across Westeros, or did they return to Essos? My brother asked this. I think they did make clear that were only a few hundred left, both in the last episode and this one. So in that way, I dunno, new sell-sword company? They're not that threatening at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonoNono Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Raksha 2014 said: What happened to the Dothraki? Are they merrily pillaging and raping their way across Westeros, or did they return to Essos? They'll get the Reach apparently lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clegaanebowl Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Can someone explain to me why the non-stark royal families would accept a stark king if the north is no longer a part of the seven kingdoms? Jaehaerys Tyrell and Artcasur 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, clegaanebowl said: Can someone explain to me why the non-stark royal families would accept a stark king if the north is no longer a part of the seven kingdoms? I dunno, why wouldn't they? There were the leaders of the Riverlands, Vale, Iron Islands, and I assume the one dude was supposed to be the prince of Dorne. All of them were right there, and they were all cool with it. Oh, and Gendry too. So that leaves the Reach - which I suppose is run by Bronn now so he'll do what he wants, obvs - and the Westerlands. They never did establish if Tyrion is Lord of Casterly Rock, did they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgins86 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Raksha 2014 said: GRRM never had veto power over the scripts. I think he was given the option to write some of them, which he did; but stopped because he was supposedly trying to catch up on The Winds of Winter. Martin has no idea how’s it going to end. He gave HBO a rushed panicked list and that’s how it ended. GRRM is so buried in his sub plots it would be a miracle if he published an ending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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