polishgenius Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 20 minutes ago, dog-days said: I'm glad involvement in foreign wars doesn't make someone a loser in your book. Like it quite literally didn't make him a loser. If you've got a problem with that have a go at the people who voted him in after the Iraq war and equally importantly at the Tories for being so bad that he was still the better alternative, not BFC ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted October 3, 2021 Author Share Posted October 3, 2021 29 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Who'd have thought Tony and Cherie would be greasy tax avoiders? Completely in character, if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 22 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Like it quite literally didn't make him a loser. If you've got a problem with that have a go at the people who voted him in after the Iraq war and equally importantly at the Tories for being so bad that he was still the better alternative, not BFC ffs. We both know that in the English the UK has adopted from the USA, "loser" has much wider implications than just failing to win something. It's tied to a state, not to a specific action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, dog-days said: We both know that in the English the UK has adopted from the USA, "loser" has much wider implications than just failing to win something. It's tied to a state, not to a specific action. Yes, but we also know that 'serial loser' means something else than 'loser'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dog-days Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, polishgenius said: Yes, but we also know that 'serial loser' means something else than 'loser'. Not to me I don't know BFC and I don't know his political opinions. I just know that Labour/the UK includes plenty of people who still get a hard-on for Blair, and would bring him back if they could, even if he had pulled the country into a hundred distant wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, dog-days said: I just know that Labour/the UK includes plenty of people who still get a hard-on for Blair, Fair enough. That is true. BFC defo isn't that guy, but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Brown Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 I have it on good authority that BFC reserves his strongest boners for Alan Shearer and Tino Asprilla. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Soylent Brown said: I have it on good authority that BFC reserves his strongest boners for Alan Shearer and Tino Asprilla. Unfortunately my footballing hero was always Peter Beardsley, beautiful footballer, horrible man apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john Posted October 3, 2021 Share Posted October 3, 2021 Legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 FFS another Met officer has now been charged with rape, we aren't all fucking sinister I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 Worked in the same unit as Couzens, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Linky: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/oct/03/metropolitan-police-officer-charged-rape-hertfordshire Fucking hell! How long until Boris U-Turns on not having a public enquiry? It's the least that needs to happen to start rebuilding trust.Given that the unit in question is "parliamentary and diplomatic protection" - you'd have to wonder if they've got mates in high places - hence no enquiry to start with. Would it be an over-reaction to suggest that anyone serving the same unit at the same time should be suspended (on full pay) pending a full investigation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: How long until Boris U-Turns on not having a public enquiry? It's the least that needs to happen to start rebuilding trust.Given that the unit in question is "parliamentary and diplomatic protection" - you'd have to wonder if they've got mates in high places - hence no enquiry to start with. Well it's a ongoing bone of contention how many people from that dept end up getting honours. 15 minutes ago, Which Tyler said: Would it be an over-reaction to suggest that anyone serving the same unit at the same time should be suspended (on full pay) pending a full investigation? If you don't mind leaving politicians and foreign dignitaries unguarded (by firearms officers) there is no spare capacity to pick up the slack. It's a big unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Which Tyler Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Well it's a ongoing bone of contention how many people from that dept end up getting honours. And now it's coming into the full glare of publicity. 2 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: If you don't mind leaving politicians and foreign dignitaries unguarded (by firearms officers) there is no spare capacity to pick up the slack. It's a big unit. That seems fair; but something needs to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Innocent until proven guilty and all that. But it sure is not a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58791455 Woman assaulted by a man at the Tory conference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 So, um, is Boris Johnson coming out in support of Biden's big US social services/climate change/other liberal stuff bill, taking the piss out of Biden, or is this some UK-specific thing I don't get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Basically Johnson;s government are masters of the empty three word slogan which they will repeat ad nauseam for a while until they more onto the next one. Pure PR with no substantive policy behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 minute ago, A wilding said: Basically Johnson;s government are masters of the empty three word slogan which they will repeat ad nauseam for a while until they more onto the next one. Pure PR with no substantive policy behind it. Okay. But is Johnson also using "Build Back Better" for anything he's trying to do in the UK? Because that's the name of Biden's US plan. But it seems weird that Johnson would have an opinion at all on a US bill that is almost entirely domestic focused, except for the climate change parts, and like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fez said: Okay. But is Johnson also using "Build Back Better" for anything he's trying to do in the UK? Because that's the name of Biden's US plan. But it seems weird that Johnson would have an opinion at all on a US bill that is almost entirely domestic focused, except for the climate change parts, and like this. It's the name of the UK's post covid recovery plan. A quick google search seems to suggest both Johnson and Biden stole it from a UN framework for disaster recovery from back in 2015 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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