Jaxom 1974 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 No lucky thirteen... Gonna be interesting, but I don't see more than two of these remaining seven flipping at best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Harris just flipped, not sure if he got his bribe already or decided he didn't want to part of the absolute fringe. But that's getting things awfully close for McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Arryn Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Fez said: I assume nothing. McCarthy won't always be able to ensure such high attendance of his conference and there will likely be plenty of times he doesn't have a numerical majority without the holdouts. If they get punished I could certainly ones like Gaetz voting with Democrats on procedural stuff (never actual bills of course) simply to fuck with him. Isn’t Matt Gaetz supposed to clear up over time so long as you take the medication regularly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Looks like Josh Hawley has some opposition in 2024: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: Realistically what's going to happen to the couple of holdouts, assuming they don't all jump together? Will they be stripped of committee seats and financial backing? Can McCarthy even afford to do that given how weak of a Speaker he will be? They're not going to be punished at all. For the GOP over the past 30 years, this is the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 They can't punish them either. Kevin needs those votes...if they're to be had. Adjournment until 10pm EST tonight? If the 6 hold outs still hold out on vote 14, do any of those who've flipped to Kevin, flip back off of him? Get some GoT style stuff going here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Yeah, sadly it does look like the fun is almost over. They'll eventually wear everyone down and slip in the vote. Just takes a few absences at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanteGabriel Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Looks like Josh Hawley has some opposition in 2024: Jesus Christ I haven't had a cigarette in five years but I want one now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Interesting News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 McCarthy says he has the votes needed to win. It appears as if Rosendale and Crane may be the turncoats (for the 'never Kevin' faction, I hasten to add). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 If there is any justice, no one will call McCarthy anything but a stubborn ass...he's no hero... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Damn, he threatened them with weekend work, so ofc he'll get the votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Josh Hawley's written a book about how to be a MAN???????????? Is there any one in the vicinity who would buy this book if it came available at a venue convenient and cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Lol, the "moderate" GOP rebellion may actually be happening. Not necessarily against McCarthy on the Speakership, but on the rules package immediately afterwards: I honestly don't know what happens if there is a Speaker but there isn't a rules package (whereas without a Speaker the House can only do what it's done the past 4 days). Maybe the House just functions under general parliamentary procedure until a rules package does pass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis de Leech Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Maybe it uses the rules from the previous House? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paladin of Ice Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 4 hours ago, LongRider said: Interesting News Katie! Katie! Katie! (Can you tell who I'd prefer to have seat? Not that I'd have a problem with Schiff taking it.) All rumormongering at this point, but still. Also the article itself says that some veterans of the BErnie Sanders presidential campaigns are trying to nudge Ro Khanna towards throwing a hat into the ring as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted January 7, 2023 Author Share Posted January 7, 2023 47 minutes ago, Fez said: I honestly don't know what happens if there is a Speaker but there isn't a rules package (whereas without a Speaker the House can only do what it's done the past 4 days). Maybe the House just functions under general parliamentary procedure until a rules package does pass? I dunno, seems pretty clear. Let's not overstate the importance of a rules package. They operate..without a rules package. Which is actually a pretty common precedent. Perhaps not in the House, but the Senate had to do it until, what, February last cycle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 34 minutes ago, Paladin of Ice said: Katie! Katie! Katie! I’m a fan of Katie myself. Her white board in the Senate? Bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, DMC said: I dunno, seems pretty clear. Let's not overstate the importance of a rules package. They operate..without a rules package. Which is actually a pretty common precedent. Perhaps not in the House, but the Senate had to do it until, what, February last cycle? The vote for McCarthy seems to be contingent on the rules package he agreed to being passed as well. So, if the rules package fails because it ticks off the mainstream R's, then McCarthy gets voted out? Okay, this is intriguing enough to make my 2023 prediction list: The R's either lose the House through attrition (30-70) and or they lose the Speaker position (also 30-70) The other prediction, of course, being a 50-50 shot that Putin meets his end by the end of the year and Russia starts to break up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, DMC said: I dunno, seems pretty clear. Let's not overstate the importance of a rules package. They operate..without a rules package. Which is actually a pretty common precedent. Perhaps not in the House, but the Senate had to do it until, what, February last cycle? Difference is that the senate is a continuing body, so it continued to operate under the previous organizing resolution. Which was bad for Democrats, since it meant that the committees still operated as if there was a Republican majority. But it did mean that the senate could technically function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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