Gaston de Foix Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, Tywin et al. said: Thanks for the correction. But does it not still give media outlets more leeway for what they can say about him? My understanding was that she said that was the minimal amount he did, she just couldn't confirm if it was more that that but felt that it could be. Regardless though we already knew Trump is probably a rapist based on his first wife's statements. Let's be real here. She's not the first woman he sexually assaulted/raped, nor was Ivana. The vast majority were and have remained silent out of fear of his retribution. And I have to say, I don't blame them. What justice did Christine Blasey Ford get? Or Debbie Ramirez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Ms. Carroll is a very brave woman, and she did it for all of us. Her life, like those of the jurors, are in dangers, so say the feds, warning them all today, again after the verdict. It's only been the women evidently tough enough to face this authoritarian hater violent murderous shyte. Ser Scot A Ellison, Winterfell is Burning and Gaston de Foix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: My understanding was that she said that was the minimal amount he did, she just couldn't confirm if it was more that that but felt that it could be. Regardless though we already knew Trump is probably a rapist based on his first wife's statements. So was the understanding of Partner ... just read the NY Times, and while there are no quotes it does state she said he penetrated her with his penis. So, then, if that happened, there is no basis no basis in any law to say it wasn't rape. Purportedly there was a rightwing juror -- since the verdicts had to unanimous, maybe that is the explanation -- but, needless to say, I don't know anything. Edited May 9, 2023 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) George Santos charged by federal prosecutors. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/george-santos-charged-federal-prosecutors/ ...though the exact nature of the alleged criminal violations is unclear. The charges were filed in the Eastern District of New York, and Santos could appear in court on Long Island as early as Wednesday morning. Edited May 9, 2023 by Mindwalker Ser Scot A Ellison and Spockydog 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Tywin et al. said: Eh, there's some value in being able to start every article with a version of, "Trump, who was found guilty unanimously of sexual assault by a jury." I guess you can't say "convicted sex offender" since this was a civil trial and that even though the verdict was that he probably committed a serious crime, he is still not a criminal under the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Criminal charges filed agains George Santos (if that is his name) by the US Justice Department. Under seal until Monday. https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1656050452658618371?s=46&t=6f2pTCn5vNYPb05sK9Ubrw About bloody time. This guy is beyond the pale. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varysblackfyre321 Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Spockydog said: About bloody time. This guy is beyond the pale. I hope he rats on a couple New York house republicans. Edited May 9, 2023 by Varysblackfyre321 Mindwalker and Ser Scot A Ellison 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Spockydog said: About bloody time. This guy is beyond the pale. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 48 minutes ago, Gaston de Foix said: Let's be real here. She's not the first woman he sexually assaulted/raped, nor was Ivana. The vast majority were and have remained silent out of fear of his retribution. And I have to say, I don't blame them. What justice did Christine Blasey Ford get? Or Debbie Ramirez? 100% I still can't get past Kavanaugh having all these creepy calendars that he kept decades later for whatever reason, and then one he cited possibly confirmed they were actually at the same party around the time she made the claim. 29 minutes ago, Zorral said: So was the understanding of Partner ... just read the NY Times, and while there are no quotes it does state she said he penetrated her with his penis. So, then, if that happened, there is no basis no basis in any law to say it wasn't rape. Either way it sounds like rape to me. And I feel safe saying Trump's favorite body part is at best the size of a thumb. Stormy said as much and she seems like an honest person, especially by comparison. 19 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: I guess you can't say "convicted sex offender" since this was a civil trial and that even though the verdict was that he probably committed a serious crime, he is still not a criminal under the law? I want media outlets to test it at the very least. I would always try to be one of the first people to protect someone who was getting bullied, but I also think there are certain people who need to be mocked into oblivion. Not a single soul should protect Trump or his tiny penis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: I guess you can't say "convicted sex offender" since this was a civil trial and that even though the verdict was that he probably committed a serious crime, he is still not a criminal under the law? He's not and you can't. I suspect you could call him a "sex offender" without fear of a defamation lawsuit since a jury of his peers has found that he committed a sexual assault according to a civil standard and you might be entitled to a reasonable opinion defense. But the same standard would not apply to media publications, I don't think. Scot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 Must. Resist. But. Can't. Sorry. Boneitis: Argonath Diver, Jace, Extat and Gaston de Foix 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 (edited) Wait, doesn't the honorable gentleman have immunity? Edited May 10, 2023 by Mindwalker Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 15 hours ago, Secretary of Eumenes said: Not a political scientist but I think Rs get something out of not looking at prospective voters who would struggle to replace a broken window without financing and saying shit like "in the aggregate your economy is wholesale, with good ballast and blibberdorp. Blibberdorp, blibberdorp, blibberdorp. Smigglesmackle! Smag smag sigatag. Yes, I will take fries with that as I pretend to pretend enjoying slumming it with you repulsive creatures. Don't forget your list of RightThink jargons to bring to the voting booth, now! We wouldn't want you to need re-educating." But that's just, like, my opinion man. Considering the Republicans do this exact shit every time they're in power, I find this an uncompelling argument. 2016 Republican: "Oh god, the economy is in shambles! Barack HUSSEIN 'Not Born in America' Obama has ruined our great, pristine economy that Ronald 'Jesus Reborn' Reagan and *coughGeorgeBushcough* created! Those economic numbers are lies made up by his socialist, communist, and muslimist far-left media!" January 21st 2017 Republican: "OUR ECONOMY IS GREAT! BEST EVER! SEE THOSE STONKS! UP! LINE GO UP WEEEE! WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK? MUST BE SOME LAZY LIBRUL LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT." And I'll be honest, those economic "recoveries" under both Obama and Trump were largely bullshit. 3 hours ago, Spockydog said: About bloody time. This guy is beyond the pale. It's a clear indictment of our current moment when Santos is far from the worse piece of shit in office right now. Honestly, I'll take another 100 of Santos if it means getting rid of MTG, Boebert, Gaetz, Vance, Johnson, and all of the other Fascist Patch Kids currently sucking up the oxygen. Jace, Extat and Larry of the Lawn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: He's not and you can't. I suspect you could call him a "sex offender" without fear of a defamation lawsuit since a jury of his peers has found that he committed a sexual assault according to a civil standard and you might be entitled to a reasonable opinion defense. But the same standard would not apply to media publications, I don't think. Scot? How about "confirmed sex pest", and "known sexual predator"? I know David Pakman for the last 2 years has on his show always intro'd Trump as "failed former president", but he could, if it was his wont, extend that to "failed former president and known sexual predator", if that phrase would not create legal jeopardy. I guess might want to hold off until appeals have worked through the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Gaston de Foix said: He's not and you can't. I suspect you could call him a "sex offender" without fear of a defamation lawsuit since a jury of his peers has found that he committed a sexual assault according to a civil standard and you might be entitled to a reasonable opinion defense. But the same standard would not apply to media publications, I don't think. Scot? It is absolutely not a lie to say Trump has been found lible for claiming he didn’t commit a sexual assault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: It is absolutely not a lie to say Trump has been found lible for claiming he didn’t commit a sexual assault. Just glanced at your signature panel. Made me wonder what EHK would have made of the last 6 years in US politics. RIP. Durckad, Ser Scot A Ellison and Prince of the North 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 To answer my own question, apparently nothing will happen to Santos as long as he's in Congress. And we know McCarthy won't expel him. Bummer. There's always a catch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Remember when we were all horrified and angry and sad about the treatment of people crossing the US-Mexico border? Kalbear and Mindwalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindwalker Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, Larry of the Lake said: Remember when we were all horrified and angry and sad about the treatment of people crossing the US-Mexico border? Well, the president deployed a welcome committee, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Can you be both white trash and human garbage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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