Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) 39 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: Yes, do let's court the possibility of an eminently corrupt proto-fascist becoming president because Joe Biden doesn't properly inspire us. Honestly, the experience of Donald Trump the politician has made clear to me why nobody on Krypton heeded the obvious signs that their planet was about to crack in two. Pretty much this, and it doesn't help that people don't pay attention in general. Plus too many people vote like they're the clueless person in front of you at a Chipotle who don't know what they want. Edited January 17 by Mr. Chatywin et al. drawkcabi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 45 minutes ago, TrackerNeil said: Honestly, the experience of Donald Trump the politician has made clear to me why nobody on Krypton heeded the obvious signs that their planet was about to crack in two. Yeah that went from "unrealistic political situation to destroy a planet" to "duh, this is how ours will end". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 If Trump becomes President, he's out for revenge. What many people dont seem to be fathoming is that his supporters are too, after 3 humiliations in the polls (2018/2020/2022), even seemingly 'normal' people are having dissonant views of reality. If anything, a vote for Biden is a vote for self-preservation in a sense. Prince of the North, Durckad and drawkcabi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, IheartIheartTesla said: If anything, a vote for Biden is a vote for self-preservation in a sense. Vote like all future votes depend on it. Because they will! TrackerNeil, Ser Reptitious, Ser Scot A Ellison and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I still can't believe 14% of registered Republicans turned out in Iowa. I expected low turnout, but that's disgraceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 11 minutes ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: I still can't believe 14% of registered Republicans turned out in Iowa. I expected low turnout, but that's disgraceful. Maybe that turnout was a vote against Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: I still can't believe 14% of registered Republicans turned out in Iowa. I expected low turnout, but that's disgraceful. Ha, I was thinking about this. Can you explain why so many outlets are talking about it like it was a massive win for Mango? I get that he got something like 51% and Wrong DeS got ~ 21% and Nikki ~ 19%, so I can see he won bigly in that sense, but it’s not people were super mobilised and energised to show up. I also get that the weather didn’t help. I also saw somewhere that he got roughly the same amount of votes he got when he lost to Cancun Ted… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 8 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Ha, I was thinking about this. Can you explain why so many outlets are talking about it like it was a massive win for Mango? I get that he got something like 51% and Wrong DeS got ~ 21% and Nikki ~ 19%, so I can see he won bigly in that sense, but it’s not people were super mobilised and energised to show up. I also get that the weather didn’t help. I also saw somewhere that he got roughly the same amount of votes he got when he lost to Cancun Ted… Trump would likely benefit from low voter turnout in the general election, so it could serve as a warning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, Phylum of Alexandria said: Trump would likely benefit from low voter turnout in the general election, so it could serve as a warning... I don’t get it… I mean, there was low republican turnout in Iowa but in the general he’d benefit from low dem turnout, and I don’t quite see how the two connect? I’m probably missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Ha, I was thinking about this. Can you explain why so many outlets are talking about it like it was a massive win for Mango? I get that he got something like 51% and Wrong DeS got ~ 21% and Nikki ~ 19%, so I can see he won bigly in that sense, but it’s not people were super mobilised and energised to show up. I also get that the weather didn’t help. I also saw somewhere that he got roughly the same amount of votes he got when he lost to Cancun Ted… He got 10k more votes which isn't nothing, but I wouldn't blame the weather for the low turnout. It's probably more apathy and inevitability. Plus he got the large margin because this time around he had a halfway coherent campaign. NH will be interesting. Trump will win, but I'm curious to see how much Haley can close the gap. All the reporting I've seen suggests DeSantis is polling really badly there and not trying very hard. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: I don’t get it… I mean, there was low republican turnout in Iowa but in the general he’d benefit from low dem turnout, and I don’t quite see how the two connect? I’m probably missing something here. There's a legit worry that the youth vote will be low and Trump is polling higher than expected with Black and Latino men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 (edited) 11 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: I don’t get it… I mean, there was low republican turnout in Iowa but in the general he’d benefit from low dem turnout, and I don’t quite see how the two connect? I’m probably missing something here. I don't know who in Iowa stayed home and who went to caucus, so it might be a loose analogy. But in the general an unpopular candidate can benefit if reasonable people stay home. Just trying to highlight to certain people here that their action or inaction can have important effects... Edited January 17 by Phylum of Alexandria kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: There's a legit worry that the youth vote will be low and Trump is polling higher than expected with Black and Latino men. Right, but then we’re talking about low dem turnout in the general, right? I may be working under a misunderstanding… I thought only registered republicans could vote in republican primaries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Right, but then we’re talking about low dem turnout in the general, right? I may be working under a misunderstanding… I thought only registered republicans could vote in republican primaries? You're correct, people are just speculating that if turn out was low in the Iowa Republican primary, that it will be in November in the general. Be prepared to read all kinds of doom-mongering and "Vote Harder!" and "the most important election of our lives" type of sentiments here over the next ten months. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 6 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Right, but then we’re talking about low dem turnout in the general, right? I may be working under a misunderstanding… I thought only registered republicans could vote in republican primaries? Every state has different rules (for example, this was a caucus, not a primary). Trump is, to speak in sports terms, a candidate with a high floor and a low ceiling. The worry is Biden may underperform in the general and that helps Trump. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, Larry of the Lawn said: You're correct, people are just speculating that if turn out was low in the Iowa Republican primary, that it will be in November in the general. Be prepared to read all kinds of doom-mongering and "Vote Harder!" and "the most important election of our lives" type of sentiments here over the next ten months. Damn straight! #sorrynotsorry Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said: I don’t get it… I mean, there was low republican turnout in Iowa but in the general he’d benefit from low dem turnout, and I don’t quite see how the two connect? I’m probably missing something here. Honestly, it's because 'the Iowa caucus is largely meaningless and we can't read anything much into it' is not a line you can write many stories about. Ser Scot A Ellison, TrackerNeil and Jace, Extat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragile Bird Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Wasn’t the weather largely to blame for the low turnout? The daytime temperatures started around -15 which is -26C, rising to maybe -8, or -22C, but with the windchill the temperatures were as low as -30, -34C. Who the hell wants to go out and vote in those temperatures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) Iowa was in a blizzard at the time, alot of snow and very cold. My sister lives there and confirmed the weather really affected turnout. She's a good Democrat and she happily stayed home. Weather affects turnout, and it did this time. Edited January 17 by LongRider Fragile Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 You know we invest a lot of time and money into fostering a culture of ignorance here in the US, kindly get that Celsius shit the fuck out of here. wiedzma, kissdbyfire, Fragile Bird and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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