Durckad Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 22 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I appreciate that. Yet, when Trumpanistas think about “communism” what they will point to if they care to provide some kind of historical basis… is the Soviet Union. I personally don't think they actually know enough about the internal workings of the Soviet Union to be able to have much of a nuanced opinion on what "type" of communism is bad (or that there are types of it at all). All they know is Soviet Union bad and communism bad. Funnily enough, I think most would be a-okay with a Soviet style system where faceless bureaucrats and plutocrats sit at the top handing out dictates... just as long as the "right" plutocrats and bureaucrats are in charge and the right people are being harmed by them. But, in that case, it's not "communism" anymore at all, even if nothing fundamental has changed other than the people in power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Also, for anyone who thinks Trump's brain isn't in constant glitch mode, yeah... https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/kciwRQqL Dude's brain is doing the same thing that was happening to Giuliani's face all those years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Durckad said: Also, for anyone who thinks Trump's brain isn't in constant glitch mode, yeah... https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/kciwRQqL Dude's brain is doing the same thing that was happening to Giuliani's face all those years ago. Is he confusing Haley with Pelosi? Not that Pelosi was in charge of security (I think she had something to do w/ the Capitol Police but that’s all, and I’m not even sure of this). But Mango has accused Pelosi of failing on Jan 6 “b/c she was in charge of security”. I mean, this little fuck up is worse than mistaking E. Jean Carroll for Marla Maples! Edited January 20 by kissdbyfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Is he confusing Haley with Pelosi? Not that Pelosi was in charge of security (I think she had something to do w/ the Capitol Police but that’s all, and I’m not even sure of this). But Mango has accused Pelosi of failing on Jan 6 “b/c she was in charge of security”. I mean, this little fuck up is worse than mistaking E. Jean Carroll for Marla Maples! And Trumpanistas want to minge and whine that Biden has dementia… Edited January 20 by Ser Scot A Ellison kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 It's Trump's usual, his mouth is moving, and pearls of wisdom nonsense are babbling out. Same as it ever was, won't change anything. Prince of the North 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durckad Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 31 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Is he confusing Haley with Pelosi? Not that Pelosi was in charge of security (I think she had something to do w/ the Capitol Police but that’s all, and I’m not even sure of this). But Mango has accused Pelosi of failing on Jan 6 “b/c she was in charge of security”. I mean, this little fuck up is worse than mistaking E. Jean Carroll for Marla Maples! I think so? But honestly who the fuck knows at this point... Trump certainly doesn't Prince of the North and kissdbyfire 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: Is he confusing Haley with Pelosi? Not that Pelosi was in charge of security (I think she had something to do w/ the Capitol Police but that’s all, and I’m not even sure of this). But Mango has accused Pelosi of failing on Jan 6 “b/c she was in charge of security”. I mean, this little fuck up is worse than mistaking E. Jean Carroll for Marla Maples! Pretty dangerous thing, given a Trumpist wacko tried to literally go after Pelosi. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 20 minutes ago, Martell Spy said: a Trumpist wacko tried to literally go after Pelosi. And one did nearly kill her husband. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, Zorral said: And one did nearly kill her husband. With a hammer… ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 minutes ago, Zorral said: And one did nearly kill her husband. Yeah, that is the incident I was talking about. He went there for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 9 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: Is he confusing Haley with Pelosi? Not that Pelosi was in charge of security (I think she had something to do w/ the Capitol Police but that’s all, and I’m not even sure of this). But Mango has accused Pelosi of failing on Jan 6 “b/c she was in charge of security”. I mean, this little fuck up is worse than mistaking E. Jean Carroll for Marla Maples! And Haley is punching back, finally. But this part from Trump's campaign says everything about these hoods: Quote A senior Trump campaign adviser, Chris LaCivita, posted on X Saturday, “Nancy ….Nikki ….its a distinction without a difference.” https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/20/politics/nikki-haley-donald-trump-mental-fitness/index.html The entire article would be hilarious if this was satire. kissdbyfire and Fragile Bird 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 All They want is freedom, which means punching people in the face without repercussion. Paul Campos reviews The Undertow: "Jeff Sharlet’s new book The Undertow is a kind of travelogue of revenant fascism" https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/the-violent-dreamworld-of-the-american-right Quote At a Trump rally in 2016, Sharlet mixed in with a crowd aching to punch a liberal protester. “The joy of punching, real or imagined, is the ideal of action, an inner feeling made incarnate,” Sharlet writes. He quotes a rallygoer: “[Trump] stands up there and says what we all think…. We all want to punch somebody in the face, and he says it for us.” Sharlet’s reporting suggests that today’s American fascism is grounded largely in this sort of feeling, in a kind of Pentecostal Spirit. Gun legislation in GOP states does not in fact establish militias or give aggrieved incels explicit permission to shoot up schools and other public places. And yet, those who point to legislative failures and economic inequality neglect the power of Spirit to, say, besiege the Capitol and interrupt the certification of electoral college votes. Here’s Donald Trump riffing at a rally in Tulsa in June 2020: Hey, it’s 1:00 o’clock in the morning and a very tough, I’ve used the word on occasion, hombre, a very tough hombre is breaking into the window of a young woman whose husband is away as a traveling salesman or whatever he may do. And you call 911 and they say, “I’m sorry, this number’s no longer working.” By the way, you have many cases like that, many, many, many. Whether it’s a young woman, an old woman, a young man or an old man and you’re sleeping. So what are you going to do, right? Journalism as we’ve known it for the last seventy years or so is not particularly well equipped to deal with policy announced via parables like this. Parables resist rock-solid, evidence-based debunkings. Donald Trump’s imagination is stuck in an era when salesmen traveled the land, but Pastor Hank Kunneman and 80 percent of the Republican Party seem to be stuck right there with him. Trump’s entire project is to overturn both the sexual and civil-rights revolution of the 1960s and what’s left of the New Deal that preceded it. Sharlet’s writing suggests that there is an army all around us ready to help fulfill this project. He attempts to decipher the parables and sermons that hold sway in Ashli Babbit country and to understand why, for instance, the mob that descended on the Capitol was, for at least a couple hours, successful in taking it. The Undertow is an ear to the ground, recording the seemingly disconnected notes of what for many armed Americans is a coordinated symphony of revolution. *** Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action’s sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Goering’s alleged statement (“When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun”) to the frequent use of such expressions as “degenerate intellectuals,” “eggheads,” “effete snobs,” “universities are a nest of reds.” The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values. . . . For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle. Thus pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. It is bad because life is permanent warfare. This, however, brings about an Armageddon complex. Since enemies have to be defeated, there must be a final battle, after which the movement will have control of the world. But such a “final solution” implies a further era of peace, a Golden Age, which contradicts the principle of permanent war. No fascist leader has ever succeeded in solving this predicament. Umberto Eco, “Ur-Fascism” An email I received this morning: Hello America hating bitch, This is in regards to your idiotic comments in the Times. You sound like a squealing hysterical racist. Stick to what you do best: Brainwashing the little bastards who attend your shithouse skool with your nonsense while feeding at the public trough. Have a nice day. Bonecrusher Bob Sharlet’s treatment of Ashli Babbitt, who is becoming the Horst Wessel of Trumpism, is particularly interesting. From interview with him in the Guardian: Because of my heart condition I’d been tucked in during Covid, and I live in a rural area. I remember sitting there at my kitchen table, watching January 6 on the computer, texting furiously. We heard about a white woman being killed. It was very soon after that we knew the cop was Black. And I thought, holy shit, it’s The Birth of a Nation [a 1915 movie that justifies organized white-on-Black violence with a racist depiction of Black people, including them being sexually predatory toward white women; such accusations were the pretext for lynchings for decades, with echoes remaining today]. They just did a live re-enactment of their fantasy! They would say Babbitt wore an American flag, but it’s not true. She wore a Trump cape, which is the new American flag. They would say she’s unarmed, but it’s not true. She was carrying a knife. There’s a photo of [Babbitt’s knife] on the cover of the book. You could say, well, it’s a small knife. Really? That knife is plenty big enough. You write that, almost immediately, the right tried to diminish Babbitt’s agency, to make her younger, smaller, quieter. It reminded me of Terri Schiavo [the 26-year-old woman who was found unconscious in 1984 and was the subject of a family battle for her medical decision-making, which became a national debate dominated by the Catholic church and the religious right until her death in 2005]. We see the efforts on the right to project a childlike acquiescence on to the adult woman. Yes! Ashli Babbitt’s “martyrdom” is tied up in her remaking as an innocent. You realize that the gun and the fetus, it’s an innocence cult. It’s not a death cult, people misunderstand this. It’s an innocence cult, which is to say, it’s also the erasure of history. It says, “No, no, no, there’s no original sin in American history. We were always good.” Babbitt was hurting. She was in her mid-30s, after serving eight tours of duty. She was in massive debt. And she fell in love with Trump. Babbitt resolved her grief by getting certainty. She could not mourn. You mean she was angry, hurting – but not reckoning with her circumstances, embracing her condition. What did she want? She wanted justice? She just wanted to be a person and serve her country. A pervasive sense of victimization and national humiliation, a fetishized cult of violent action, a fantasy of a departed golden age, ruined by the poisoners of the national blood, a bloody eschatology of ultimate triumph over the treasonous enemies in our midst . . . Is there a word for this? Ser Scot A Ellison, Larry of the Lawn and kissdbyfire 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 48 minutes ago, Zorral said: All They want is freedom, which means punching people in the face without repercussion. Paul Campos reviews The Undertow: "Jeff Sharlet’s new book The Undertow is a kind of travelogue of revenant fascism" https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2024/01/the-violent-dreamworld-of-the-american-right The word is “Fascism”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Listening to a report describing New Hampshire people trying to get people to vote for Haley in the primary, the reasons why -- actually, only one -- MUST STOP FASCIST IN CHIEF (and of course, the perennial "Biden's too old") -- and how they are trying to do it. ~~~~~~~~~~~ WRT to the above -- I have (or, maybe had?) a first-rate imagination. Having one's constant favorite imaginative yearning being punching people -- even strangers! -- in the face, as life's most satisfying fulfillment, is just something I've never done. OTOH, I've never been imprisoned unjustly due to good fortune. Edited January 21 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 25 minutes ago, Zorral said: Listening to a report describing New Hampshire people trying to get people to vote for Haley in the primary, the reasons why -- actually, only one -- MUST STOP FASCIST IN CHIEF (and of course, the perennial "Biden's too old") -- and how they are trying to do it. Just listened to a focus group pod and the one thing they said was consistent across the board about Nikki is that everyone said they don't trust her. 25 minutes ago, Zorral said: ~~~~~~~~~~~ WRT to the above -- I have (or, maybe had?) a first-rate imagination. Having one's constant favorite imaginative yearning being punching people -- even strangers! -- in the face, as life's most satisfying fulfillment, is just something I've never done. OTOH, I've never been imprisoned unjustly due to good fortune. I don't know, some people may deserve a good punch in the nose? I punched a boy who was bullying another boy in school once. I was only 8 or 9, but I'd do it again. Meanwhile, SNL cold open was funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, kissdbyfire said: Just listened to a focus group pod and the one thing they said was consistent across the board about Nikki is that everyone said they don't trust her. I don't know, some people may deserve a good punch in the nose? I punched a boy who was bullying another boy in school once. I was only 8 or 9, but I'd do it again. Meanwhile, SNL cold open was funny! It is so disturbing that the SNL cold opens just sound like Trump… you can’t exaggerate him… it just sounds like Trump. Prince of the North, drawkcabi and kissdbyfire 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IheartIheartTesla Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 DeSantis has dropped out of the Republican primaries, so it looks like the anti-Trump coalescence may happen sooner rather than later and we'll have a long time to see just how much of it there is in the party. Kalbear and Martell Spy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 25 minutes ago, IheartIheartTesla said: DeSantis has dropped out of the Republican primaries, so it looks like the anti-Trump coalescence may happen sooner rather than later and we'll have a long time to see just how much of it there is in the party. I’m a little surprised. Why back out after his second place finish (all be it a tight second) in Iowa? Edited January 21 by Ser Scot A Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 Can I just say, that Baldwin's Trump is still the best one. Not a comment on his legal issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 2 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I’m a little surprised. Why back out after his second place finish (all be it a tight second) in Iowa? Maybe he knows that continuing to run is only going to tank his "brand" even more. Whoever is last standing against Trump is going to be the "biggest rino electoral loser ever" or some shit. He doesn't embarrass himself any more this round and he can live again to run sometime in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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