Martell Spy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 DeSantis just lost the judicial firewall he boasted about Despite appointing five of the seven justices, the Supreme Court bucked the governor. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/03/desantis-just-lost-the-judicial-firewall-he-boasted-about-00150251 Quote But that court this week jolted the governor and the state’s Republicans so much that some party members want some of the justices replaced. In one swoop on Monday, justices signed off on some of the strictest abortion restrictions in the country, while also greenlighting proposed voter initiatives that, if approved, would enshrine abortion access in the state Constitution and allow recreational marijuana. Republicans, including the state’s GOP attorney general, asked the court to block the initiatives. But in both ballot decisions, justices appointed by DeSantis proved critical to the final tally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makk Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, DMC said: …And a week later 22 GOP Senators voted for a clean foreign aid supplemental without the immigration provisions, which is what I’m talking about. Which allows Johnson to repeat his earlier line of no foreign aid until the border is fixed. This is not an example of standing up to Trump. Yes Johnson would have tanked it anyway but he would have been under much more political pressure to allow a vote on it. And if the republican senate actually did stand up to trump it may have emboldened those in the house to try to solve the problem rather than meekly resign or carry on doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMC Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 19 minutes ago, Makk said: Which allows Johnson to repeat his earlier line of no foreign aid until the border is fixed. This is not an example of standing up to Trump. No, but it’s another clear example that McConnell wants to continue to support Ukraine and Trump winning in November isn’t going to change his preference. The immigration/aid deal is a terrible example of McConnell being untrustworthy - of which there are legions. He wanted to pass a clean aid supplemental to begin. It was Johnson and the MAGA MCs that insisted on merging it with immigration..then did a 180 when they realized they’d be giving Biden a victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Documents for Donald Trump's $175 million bond in his New York civil fraud case were rejected by a court because a current financial statement was not included. On Wednesday, a message on the New York State Supreme Court's electronic filing system showed Trump's "Bond/Undertaking" had been "returned for correction. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-forced-reveal-his-finances-save-his-properties-1886609#:~:text=Documents for Donald Trump's,been "returned for correction." Trump's Bond Filing Bungled: Court Rejects Submission Due to Missing Financial Statement https://www.reddit.com/r/law/comments/1bv0ijn/trumps_bond_filing_bungled_court_rejects/ DireWolfSpirit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Trump seems to have lost his 'presidential immunity' defense. It is beginning to seem possible that Trump will be formally convicted and sentenced before the election...on some sort of charge, anyhow. Donald Trump loses presidential immunity delay effort for upcoming New York criminal trial (msn.com) ANew York judge on Wednesday rejected former President Donald's Trump's plea to delay his upcoming criminal trial until after the Supreme Court rules on his broad claim of presidential immunity. Trump raised the argument in a March legal filing, urging Judge Juan Merchan to delay the trial until after the Supreme Court has ruled on the scope of presidential immunity in a separate Trump case dealing with federal election interference charges DireWolfSpirit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkerX Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 'liberal fake news?' Had to delete the post Edited April 4 by ThinkerX Darzin and Bironic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 56 years later: Crazy that he gave this speech the day before he was assassinated. Makes you wonder if a few of us are touched by a divinity most can't and aren't meant to ever understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) How it works . . . . Exclusive: Trump Media saved in 2022 by Russian-American under criminal investigation Trump’s social media company went public relying partly on loans from trust managed by person of interest to prosecutors https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/03/trump-media-es-family-trust-2022-loans Quote . . . Trump Media almost did not make it to the merger after regulators opened a securities investigation into the merger in 2021 and caused the company to burn through cash at an extraordinary rate as it waited to get the green light for its stock market debut. The situation led Trump Media to take emergency loans, including from an entity called ES Family Trust, which opened an account with Paxum Bank, a small bank registered on the Caribbean island of Dominica that is best known for providing financial services to the porn industry. Through leaked documents, the Guardian has learned that ES Family Trust operated like a shell company for a Russian-American businessman named Anton Postolnikov, who co-owns Paxum Bank and has been a subject of a years-long joint federal criminal investigation by the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) into the Trump Media merger. The existence of the trust has previously been reported by the Guardian and the Washington Post. However, who controlled the account, how the trust was connected to Paxum Bank, and how the money had been funneled through the trust to Trump Media was unknown. The new details about the trust are drawn from documents including: Paxum Bank records showing Postolnikov having access to the trust’s account, the papers that created the trust showing as its settlor a lawyer in St Petersburg, Russia, and three years of the trust’s financial transactions. The concern surrounding the loans to Trump Media is that ES Family Trust may have been used to complete a transaction that Paxum itself could not. Paxum Bank does not offer loans in the US as it lacks a US banking license and is not regulated by the FDIC. Postolnikov appears to have used the trust to loan money to help save Trump Media – and the Truth Social platform – because his bank itself could not furnish the loan. .... How a California billionaire known for auto loans provided Trump’s bond Don Hankey, who made a fortune offering high-interest auto loans to customers with poor credit, said providing the $175 million bond to Trump is a good business deal https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/02/don-hankey-trump-bond-175-million-california-auto-loans/ Edited April 4 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Plus, we must keep in mind re 'nottruthsocial' that they aren't hoping for, or even expecting, profit/earnings from the product itself, i.e. the company. They are expecting to make money by buying stock low, and the stock going up and then getting out. It's a meme stock, like the GameStop was a couple of years ago. ~~~~~~~~~~ PlusPLUS -- Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Ozempic Trump: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/04/donald-trump-news-2024-weight-loss-ozempic.html Edited April 4 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martell Spy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Greene keeps alive campaign to oust Johnson and warns against new push for Ukraine aid https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/03/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-speaker-johnson/index.html Quote Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene bluntly warned Speaker Mike Johnson on Wednesday that moving ahead with an aid package for Ukraine would be one of “the most egregious things he could do” as she said she was “not backing off at all” over her threat to force a House vote seeking his ouster. In a phone interview with CNN, the Georgia firebrand said GOP voters were “furious” at Johnson over his recent deal-cutting to keep the government open and suggested that she wouldn’t accept any package that included more funding for Ukraine in its war against Russia, even if it included some border security provisions. The congresswoman, who plans to speak with Johnson on Friday, warned against moving any Ukraine bill with significant Democratic support under a process known in the House as “suspension of the rules” – a practice Johnson has employed repeatedly for must-pass bills amid deep divisions within the GOP ranks. “Let me tell you, when he forces that vote, again, under suspension with no amendments, and funds Ukraine and people find out how angry their constituents are about it, that’s going to move the needle even more,” said Greene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melifeather Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 3 hours ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: 56 years later: Crazy that he gave this speech the day before he was assassinated. Makes you wonder if a few of us are touched by a divinity most can't and aren't meant to ever understand. Martin Luther King Jr has been on my mind lately as well. I have been wondering lately if years from now people will believe he was the "Messiah" for the Age of Aquarius just as Jesus was for the Age of Pisces (2 fishes). I feel I must insert that I am not religious nor do I believe Jesus was a god, but I do believe that the Bible is a collection of historical records and should be viewed as a large history book assembled by the Council of Nicaea in 325 common era at the directive of the Roman emperor Constantine. The "good news" that Jesus was known for has been distorted over time. He was actually a political activist preaching about debt - financial debt that used to be forgiven every Jubilee year. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the jubilee was a time to free slaves, to return land to its rightful owners, and to forgive debts. It was both a time of repentance when injustices were put right and the symbolic beginning of a new era. It was also how rulers were overthrown with the new ruler promising to bring about a Jubilee year - a tradition that the Romans abolished in 313 common era. Is it a coincidence that the council of Nicaea followed so closely after? The Romans created the Christian faith (and gave it a home base in Italy) in order to control the messaging - a sophisticated propaganda campaign that rewrote Jesus's message of forgiveness. How clever of the Romans to turn the message of financial debt forgiveness into the forgiveness of venial sins. The Romans based Christianity on the Zodiac knowing that the symbolism would appeal to the masses which followed a variety of gods including horoscopes. Jesus is symbolized by two fish (Pisces) which matched up with the current astrological age in which they were living (1 CE to 2150 CE). The precession of the equinoxes are roughly 2150 years until we move from one astrological age to the next. In the Bible, Luke 22:10 confirmed that the next "age" would be Aquarius. It states, “When you have entered the city, a man carrying an earthen jar of water will meet you; follow him into the house that he enters." We have about 150 years before we are officially in the age of Aquarius. Maybe some political giant as clever as the Romans will make MLK or someone like him be the prophet of this age? Mr. Chatywin et al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bironic Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 29 minutes ago, Melifeather said: Jesus is symbolized by two fish (Pisces) which matched up with the current astrological age in which they were living (1 CE to 2150 CE). The precession of the equinoxes are roughly 2150 years until we move from one astrological age to the next. In the Bible, Luke 22:10 confirmed that the next "age" would be Aquarius. It states, “When you have entered the city, a man carrying an earthen jar of water will meet you; follow him into the house that he enters." We have about 150 years before we are officially in the age of Aquarius. Maybe some political giant as clever as the Romans will make MLK or someone like him be the prophet of this age? And here I thought Jesus is symbolized by fish because Ichtys (greek for fish) is a greek abbreviation for Jesus son of god my savior or something along the lines coupled with the biblical stories of the two fish that became so many that they could feed thousands and the fact that Simon Petrus was a fisher whom Jesus told that he will fish "men" in the future... Can we not leave MLK alone? the guy has done more than enough... He doesn't deserve to end up as the figure head of the next crazy cult... Well if humanity survives until 2150, the sea levels will rise so much due to climate change that most people (Florida!) will probably live in the age of aquariums... Tears of Lys and Zorral 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melifeather Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 42 minutes ago, Bironic said: And here I thought Jesus is symbolized by fish because Ichtys (greek for fish) is a greek abbreviation for Jesus son of god my savior or something along the lines coupled with the biblical stories of the two fish that became so many that they could feed thousands and the fact that Simon Petrus was a fisher whom Jesus told that he will fish "men" in the future... Can we not leave MLK alone? the guy has done more than enough... He doesn't deserve to end up as the figure head of the next crazy cult... Well if humanity survives until 2150, the sea levels will rise so much due to climate change that most people (Florida!) will probably live in the age of aquariums... It’s just something that I was wondering about. I’m afraid I’m an avid reader and love history as well as historical fiction. You actually learn allot about history reading historical fiction! I just see the overall „issue“ of our age to be equal rights for everyone and the age of Aquarius is supposed to be a time of enlightenment both spiritually and figuratively. MLK embodies the time we live in. As for the debate about fishes…I can just imagine the Romans thinking how perfectly the symbolism worked out. I could do a deep dive on this particular subject alone, but I’m just now walking into work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DireWolfSpirit Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Melifeather said: How clever of the Romans to turn the message of financial debt forgiveness into the forgiveness of venial sins. Their most clever/sad propaganda was the interpolation that "Pontius Pilate washed his hands" of the crucifixion decision" Shifting blame onto the Jewish population and eyes away from the occupying Roman authority. A most heinous distortion. Bironic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Melifeather said: He was actually a political activist preaching about debt We really know nothing about who the real Jesus was. The first available Christian writings aren't concerned with a Jesus who had recently preached in Galilee, but of a cosmic savior coming to bring judgment at the end of days. More like the archangel Michael, or how the Essene's wrote about the high priest Melchizedek. The gospels put Jesus in a specific place and time in Judea, but they came decades later, and their contents are highly symbolic. It's mostly pseudo-history, used by the authors to advance (competing) moral arguments. Not to say that there can't be real historical nuggets embedded in the apocalyptic character, or the gospels. But if there are, the specifics are lost in the fog of history. What the early Christian scriptures tell us most about are the beliefs and concerns of the emerging Christian communities themselves. But even then, not the earliest ones. Paul is our earliest authentic scribe, and he himself admitted he was a latecomer. Zorral, kissdbyfire and Bironic 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-were-trump-s-bond-documents-rejected-and-has-this-impacted-his-civil-fraud-appeal/ar-BB1l3VAY? Quote .... On Thursday, Mr Trump resubmitted the documents with the proper information in order for his bond to be accepted. While there was speculation that it would include some of the former president’s financial records, the missing information actually related to Knight Speciality Insurance Co, which is underwriting the bond, as first noted by MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 hours ago, Melifeather said: Martin Luther King Jr has been on my mind lately as well. I have been wondering lately if years from now people will believe he was the "Messiah" for the Age of Aquarius just as Jesus was for the Age of Pisces (2 fishes). I feel I must insert that I am not religious nor do I believe Jesus was a god, but I do believe that the Bible is a collection of historical records and should be viewed as a large history book assembled by the Council of Nicaea in 325 common era at the directive of the Roman emperor Constantine. The "good news" that Jesus was known for has been distorted over time. He was actually a political activist preaching about debt - financial debt that used to be forgiven every Jubilee year. In the Hebrew Scriptures, the jubilee was a time to free slaves, to return land to its rightful owners, and to forgive debts. It was both a time of repentance when injustices were put right and the symbolic beginning of a new era. It was also how rulers were overthrown with the new ruler promising to bring about a Jubilee year - a tradition that the Romans abolished in 313 common era. Is it a coincidence that the council of Nicaea followed so closely after? The Romans created the Christian faith (and gave it a home base in Italy) in order to control the messaging - a sophisticated propaganda campaign that rewrote Jesus's message of forgiveness. How clever of the Romans to turn the message of financial debt forgiveness into the forgiveness of venial sins. The Romans based Christianity on the Zodiac knowing that the symbolism would appeal to the masses which followed a variety of gods including horoscopes. Jesus is symbolized by two fish (Pisces) which matched up with the current astrological age in which they were living (1 CE to 2150 CE). The precession of the equinoxes are roughly 2150 years until we move from one astrological age to the next. In the Bible, Luke 22:10 confirmed that the next "age" would be Aquarius. It states, “When you have entered the city, a man carrying an earthen jar of water will meet you; follow him into the house that he enters." We have about 150 years before we are officially in the age of Aquarius. Maybe some political giant as clever as the Romans will make MLK or someone like him be the prophet of this age? Unlike the Life of Brian and Dune, in the real world the Messiah always identifies them-self as such and owns their station completely, as do many distinctly non-messianic deluded persons. MLK will never be widely regarded as a Messiah, because he knew he wasn't one and he never claimed to be such. Given there are people who say they think Trump is a Messiah of sorts it's certainly possible, even probable, that some people will come to believe it, or see some advantage in laying such a claim whether or not they believe it. I feel certain that MLK will weep tears of sadness if anyone was to try to make him a Messiah, that people would equate him with his own Lord and Saviour, Jesus, would be a great blasphemy to his spiritual ears. He was a martyr for a great cause (racial equality), but it seems people are not satisfied with such an elevated state for this heroic, but no more than human, figure. Tears of Lys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, The Anti-Targ said: Given there are people who say they think Trump is a Messiah of sorts Trump the Messiah is the perfect translation of the times we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Phylum of Alexandria said: It's mostly pseudo-history, used by the authors to advance (competing) moral arguments. Which is why I always compare religion to comic books. There are some historically accurate things in them, but ultimately they're just stories that often times try to send a good message. Religion should be viewed in that way (with religion actually being far more creepy). Let's be real, Jesus never walked on water, he didn't bring someone back from the dead nor did he go full zombie himself and he didn't feed a ton of people with just a small amount of fish and bread, etc. It's every bit as silly as an all-powerful god getting outwitted by a clueless woman and a talking snake that had feet. Or people living to be nearly 1,000 years old. And we haven't even gotten into how God is a dick. Whatever was real about the story of Jesus, if he was even real, is so convoluted at this point that none of it can or should be trusted absolutely, and far too often the people that speak about him the most advocate for things antithetical to his actual teachings. You're better off playing ping pong than listen to any of those clowns. Shit, you'd probably be better off just intentionally stubbing your big toe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phylum of Alexandria Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 16 minutes ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: Which is why I always compare religion to comic books. Well, no. Maybe some of the older stories are like simple comic books, like the tales of the various judges. But most of the scriptures are far more interesting. The gospel of Mark is a brilliant work of apocalyptic esotericism, an impressive mosaic of scriptural allusions. Ecclesiastes is some gorgeous and heavy philosophy. The psalms are a wealth of beauty and raw human emotion. This is important and enriching material. But only when approached properly, not like some cake recipe for salvation. Zorral, Darzin and Ser Scot A Ellison 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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