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  2. SansaJonRule

    Cersei's "everything that you hold dear"

    OMG! Literally laughing out loud!!
  3. Darth Richard II

    Bad shows and movies you enjoy watching.

    I don’t think you understand the idea of this thread.
  4. SansaJonRule

    Dorne? Highgarden? Riverlands?

    Dorne and the Riverlands are not important to the story line right now, but that doesn't mean they won't become important again after the NK and AotD are destroyed and Dany, or whoever is left to challenge Cersei, head south to do so. The surviving troops of the Reach could be at Winterfell with the rest of Dany's army. Under normal circumstances she would have left a contingent of Dothraki and Reach soldiers there to hold the Reach so Cersei can't just take it back, but she may have taken her entire force north because Jon would want as many soldiers as possible to face the AotD. Didn't the Unsullied arrive at Casterly Rock by ship? So why would they have to march back to Dragonstone?
  5. SeanF

    Remorseful Jaime, Unrepentant Dany

    In that situation, I think Jon would have executed Randyll, as he did Janos Slynt, but he would have slung Dickon into a cell on Dragonstone, until he cooled down. Slynt and Randyll both talked themselves into a death sentence.
  6. Varysblackfyre321

    Bad shows and movies you enjoy watching.

    Robot Chicken.
  7. Error-504

    Samwell Tarly stole the spotlight.

    Self entitled brat, maybe. Sociopath no, he was right, you do need to look up the meaning of the word. Sociopaths are incapable of empathy or love, both traits Dany has shown in the past.
  8. Nictarion

    dany and sansa

    I find this take a little gross tbh. As for Jon, he is not a racist, xenophobic asshole like the majority of the northerners. Ofc he would care if tens of thousands of people died.
  9. princess brittany

    Remorseful Jaime, Unrepentant Dany

    he just knows that jon likely wouldnt do it.
  10. bloodsteel bitterraven

    My Arya/Jon Endgame Theory

    I don't think Nissa Nissa will matter on the tv show. I think Nissa Nissa in the books will be Shireen.
  11. Yeah I agree. Shenkt, Bayaz, and the prophet are all quite similar in most aspects we’ve seen. They’re all immoral. They can’t bear the thought of really submitting to another. They each played a role in making in the unification of a country. They all have no moral scruples about researching things that would probably better left alone if they feel they could gain from it. They all put their revenge above all else. Though Bayaz is less insufferable than Shenkt imo. Upon my re-reads of BSC, I couldn’t help but roll my eyes whenever Shenkt “offered” mercy to someone. It was clearly done only to make him feel better about the murders he’s committing. He knows they won’t accept it, and doesn’t give them a real reason to before he starts killing. At least Bayaz doesn’t generally pretend to care about he kills or offer them deals he knows they won’t accept to placate his conscience. I have to wonder how Shenkt could take control-I know Vitarri would probably play some role but I don’t think she’d be enough to cull enough of the powerful people in Styria. Bayaz secures money though money, the prophet through religion, it’d be interesting to see what tool Shenkt use. I mean he’s had a lot of time to amass a fortune for his killings, surely enough to start his own bank, or business.
  12. bloodsteel bitterraven

    Bronn and the pox

    They were planning to go that route on the show as well, but the actor that played Ilyn Payne had to quit due to health issues (thankfully he's fine now).
  13. Bowen Marsh

    George hates hero worship

    Human nature is the true enemy. There is always that internal conflict between what one ought to do versus what one desires to do. George Martin's characters always seem to follow their hearts and that leads to bad things happening to a lot of innocent people. Lyanna, Jaime, Catelyn, Jon, and Renly gave in to their heart's wishes and it hurt a lot of innocent people. It's not only the bad people who cause damage but those who for some reason acted selfishly. George wants to break trope. I get that. HBO is a different animal. I stopped watching the show. I no longer subscribe to hbo. And this is where the cynicism comes from. Life will not get better because human nature stays the same. There are strong elements of hopelessness in the pages for sure. George crafted a novel that doesn't have a happy tone to it. He wants his readers to feel the despair. Authors want to tug at the reader's emotions. I guess George wants to bring sadness and melancholy to the reader instead of short-lived elation. He wants to encourage discussion and he will leave a lot of plot arcs open-ended.
  14. Roux

    Bronn and the pox

    Bronn has only carried so far because we love love love Jerome and he can singggg *boy can that boy sing. In the book bronn (so far) ends at tyrions imprisonment and his betrothal to the raped girl. Ilyn Payne accompanied Jaime to dorne to rescue myrcella ( trains with Jaime cuz he can't say shit about kingslayers -lack of- ability)
  15. SansaJonRule

    My Arya/Jon Endgame Theory

    That's my impression, because the WW themselves don't show any decay or injury. The war with the dead can't be the end game because like you said, there will still be Cersei to deal with and resolution of who sits on the Iron Throne (or if the Seven Kingdoms even remain intact.) I think that would be awesome. The NK was created by the magic of the children of the forest; Jon was raised by a priestess given that power by a god, which from a religious viewpoint is not magic. So it depends on if in GRRM's world gods are real and magic is a separate force, or if everything supernatural evolves from the same source. Edit: As I pondered this futher it occurred to me that the NK himself is just a creation of magic; killing him doesn't kill whatever the magical force in the world is, so killing him should not kill Jon because he had no part in raising him.
  16. Varysblackfyre321

    By Everam’s will; a re-read of the Demon cycle:

    In the context of a patriarchal society-the type of society the Kaizans have. Often in real life, many men who are sexually abused (especially in a place where there’s a strict view of what a man is), feel they’re less of a man because of it, or seen(wrongly I have to add) as less of a man because of it by many of those around him.
  17. D2procon

    Order of deaths to come.

    My guess the white walkers are going to kill Nymeria and summon her to have a wolf to fight beside them. That's gonna be havoc
  18. Bowen Marsh

    Is death good? Why fight the Others?

    Death is rest for the soul. The average person will avoid death instinctively but those who are under constant suffering and feeling hopeless will see death as a release from the cruelties of living. I'm talking about slaves and animals who are beasts of burden are also released from their suffering by death. The instinct fights to survive but pile on enough suffering and death becomes the light at the end of a dark tunnel. What ice is giving is death too but it's not a release from suffering. Ice brings cold and darkness. Hell is frozen white. Fire is warmth and light. There are two kinds of threats in the story. The non-human threat from natural causes like a potential invasion by the Others. It's a fight between species. Then there is the threat that humans create and inflict on each other. The author has an anti-war stance but also admits he is not a complete pacifists. There is at least one war in the story that is justified. That is Daenerys Targaryen's war against slavery and the masters. The War of the Five Kings is not justified. The 5 participants only made the kingdom weaker. So all those slowly decomposing bodies are potential foot soldiers for the Others.
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  20. Lee-Sensei

    Dorne? Highgarden? Riverlands?

    It would be terrible if we don’t see Edmure and the Riverlands again, but that’s probabaly what’s going to happen. Look at Robert Arryn. Until the alliance with Dany, his army made up the overwhelming majority of the Northern forces and we haven’t seen him even though he’s by far Jons most powerful vassal... for some reason. At most we’ll probably get a bit of follow up with the Tarlys.
  21. Bowen Marsh

    ASoIaF character poll

    54 Male Daenerys Sansa NP
  22. SansaJonRule

    Bronn and the pox

    It was very funny. Loved the look on Bronn's face!
  23. Bowen Marsh

    the honeyed locusts...

    Belwas was not the target else the concentration would have been higher to compensate for his bulk. It was an assassination plot by the former slavers and their allies. Belwas and his enormous appetite saved the day.
  24. Lee-Sensei

    Rant and Rave Thread

    I’m not sure when Sansa became the smartest girl in the world. I like her, but that felt like shilling. Also, Theon’s storyline in this episode was awful. Him saving Yara was way to easy and him going to fight for the Starks is just awful. They held him hostage. One of the best things about the character in the books is the conflict that came from his dual relationship with the Starks as both a hostage and a ward. It’s also a bit jarring for me to hear the Northerners going on about how they won’t accept a foreign ruler (fair enough) while watching Yohn Royce walking behind Sansa like a dog on a leash. The Vale becoming part of Jons Kingdom was really dumb and they’ve basically lost their identity like almost every other region with the exception of the North, the Iron Islands and maybe the Westerlands.
  25. James Arryn

    NBA 2019 - Now the Joy in My World is in Zion

    Win shares, VAR, Box+/-, pretty much every one except PER where Giannis is 0.03 ahead. Again, though, I think Giannis had a hell of a year and it’s not a complete crime that he’ll win. I agree with the NBA players poll and when people look back on this season Harden will imo be THE story, with the numbers, the streaks, carrying that team when everyone else was hurt etc., but Giannis IS close. What’s a crime is that we KNOW despite all of that that Harden will lose because he’s aesthetically unpopular, and worse, that we could (and did) say before the season that the only way Harden wins is if no one else is even close.
  26. King Jon Snow Stark

    Dany Fleeing After Jon Reveal

    I think she stays and doesn’t believe Sam and Bran. It will cause fraction but she is trying to win the north. Even if Jon keeps his oath she won’t trust him.
  27. Lord Varys

    The War in the South (TWOW spoilers)

    It will be an important plot device anyway. Else there would be no reason for it to be in the story. And since it was the reason why the Greyjoys seemed to be overpowered George would have likely not had a dragon horn in the story if he didn't want them to be powerful/it to play an important role in the story. Sure, and he is (and will be even more) powerful. This would still make Euron a double 'horn user' to accomplish fiendish things (and the third Greyjoy if we expect Victarion to have Dragonbinder blown, too). This simply seems weird and unlikely to me. I expect either a human thrall of the Others - the Weeper, say, or some other wildling having made a Craster-like deal - to blow the Horn of Winter (that would make the fall of the Wall tragic because it was caused by humanity itself) or simply one of the Others doing that job when they approach the Wall. These creatures can talk. Why shouldn't they be able to blow a horn? As I think I laid out a Sack of Oldtown is not particularly likely and wouldn't really help Euron's cause. Even more since there are actually already hints - very, very subtle hints, though - that he already has one of the glass candles (not to mention that he may not really need such trinkets if the warlocks and the shade of the evening actually help him to activate his greenseer potential). Crushing the Redwynes will bring Oldtown and the Hightowers to their knees, anyway. They will beg Euron to be their king if he in exchange allows them to continue their trade with the rest of the world. And since the Arbor should enable Euron to secure all the wealth he might need in the foreseeable future he also can afford to be generous again.
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