The Mance Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 The group Daryl ran into sounded like they were talking about having burned the forest down in the first few days of the zombie outbreak. Though, perhaps I missed a big chunk? Yeah, that whole bit was really hard to follow. I think maybe they were returning to the site where they'd been for the first few months of the ZA, after having spent a big chunk of time in another location with the group that was chasing them? Or something? Though I'm not sure how they would think Daryl was with the group that was after them if they had just come from that group. Presumably they'd be familiar enough with everyone to know whether Daryl was a familiar face or not. In any case, I thought it was interesting to see some other survivors that weren't cartoonishly evil and/or hopelessly incompetent, and i was really disappointed that they didn't stick with Daryl. But hopefully they'll turn up again, otherwise that whole interlude was just a pointless exercise in Daryl trying, and failing, to recruit some strangers on his own. Also, without knowing how much, or if at all, the Telltale Games WD story relates to the comicsthe description of the leader and the group that was after Daryl's new friends kind of reminded me of Carver's community. Anyone know if that could be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mother of The Others Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Kneelers sounds familiar as if Ygritte and Stannis are coming over to this program to continue their difference of opinion. Yea i finally tricked a post onto the new board--which is racist against my regular browser, it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Yeah, that whole bit was really hard to follow. I think maybe they were returning to the site where they'd been for the first few months of the ZA, after having spent a big chunk of time in another location with the group that was chasing them? Or something? Though I'm not sure how they would think Daryl was with the group that was after them if they had just come from that group. Presumably they'd be familiar enough with everyone to know whether Daryl was a familiar face or not. In any case, I thought it was interesting to see some other survivors that weren't cartoonishly evil and/or hopelessly incompetent, and i was really disappointed that they didn't stick with Daryl. But hopefully they'll turn up again, otherwise that whole interlude was just a pointless exercise in Daryl trying, and failing, to recruit some strangers on his own. Also, without knowing how much, or if at all, the Telltale Games WD story relates to the comicsHidden ContentWell Darryl being without his crossbow for any length of time would be like Michonne being without her Samurai sword. So they will definitely be back at some stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 This Show is an enigma. So that's 3 boring episodes in a row, presumably because the producers know that viewers' little brains can only handle exciting episodes exactly half of the time??In any case, here follows some gripes:The randomness of zombie strength and speed continues to amaze. Sometimes you can singlehandedly take out a dozen, other times lone ninja zombies are a deadly threat to even Darryl.Two, the number of times our super woodsman and tracker, Darryl Dixon, gets ambushed - in the woods no less - is becoming ridiculous. He should be rambo-ing it through those woods, seeing and hearing everyone without ever being seen or heard himself. Enemies should just be sprouting crossbow bolts from their throats, fired by the invisible Apache like ghost that is Darryl Dixon, super woodsman.But then, where would any drama come from if enemies could not creep up unseen on our hardcore group of battle hardened survivors anymore, right? Ridiculous.Third, the zombie bite on the bad guy that was hunting them was beyond clumsy and ludicrous. No more needs to be said on that.Fourthly, I finally realise what makes series' like this one and Game of Thrones feel so shallow compared to say Breaking Bad. It is the huge cast list. All the time wasted on giving Abe and Sasha a bit of character development could rather have been spent on further developing the main cast. These large casts turn everyone into secondary characters, instead of really focusing in depth on 4 or 5 key characters all the time.So what did I like?:When the losers took Darryl's bike and said: "Sorry" and he replied: "You will be."Nice. Payback time will be coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I can't really find fault with them for stealing the bike and crossbow. They had little to no reason to trust Daryl. Returning to a known entity can often be safer or at least more predictable than attempting to join up with a new group. Just because Daryl brought them back the insulin doesn't really mean shit. Terminus gave everyone a good meal to start with, after all. Besides, they didn't leave him helpless or anything like that so Daryl's whole "you will be" was mostly just heat of the moment anger. I mean, they'll probably end up dead because that's how tv works, but it's not like they are deserving of some sort of hostile and intentional payback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Highlight of the episode was the guest appearance by swampthing but he was sorely underused.I didn't think Daryl on a bike at 2mph could be topped but Daryl walking with a bike proved me wrong.I think I might binge this for the next half season in the hope it isn't quite so glacial. I remember lost, at its worst still managed to check in with the whole cast and have time pass. I think this season is a few hours every 3 episodes. Like groundhog day minus the fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Daryl's expression when he is captive and looking up at his captors brings great memories back. It was there again when he was tied up by the losers and sitting against the tree.Though 20 years have passed, and he seems to have had some plastic surgery done, he manages to capture exactly the expression from the Boondock Saints scene when he and his brother are captives in the mobster's basement, just after Rocco has died.Ill Ducho then arrives to kill them, and the brothers break out in their defiant family prayer: "And Shepherds we shall be..". Ill Ducho then puts his guns away, cups their faces in his hands, and continues the prayer:' For thee my Lord for thee...", and the brothers realize he is their long lost father.The look Norman Reedus gives him then is the exact expression he has in every captive scene. Kind of a mixture of defiance and vulnerability.Really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbunting Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I must be in the minority, but I didn't like Boondock Saints. Sorry. Maybe I'll watch it again now that I am older.Yeah this episode was another let down. It was better than the last two by far. I mean, who when watching this episode didn't know that the green house zombies were going to kill the insulin girl? It was clear as f'ing day and I don't like that.What about them being followed. I remember clearly him looking in the rear view mirror of the fuel hauler to check, to me that seems like a clue to next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Flashheart Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 First time I've been right about something and the old board ate it. I called Glenn in the study with the candlestick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Knowing what happened to Glenn for three weeks made the reveal sort of anti climatic. It was just like "yup, we already knew that". Though it was a nice touch that it was Enid who helped him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterOJ Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 What the hell, board?!?Literally no posts today and only two from last night? What is going on?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Northman Reborn Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 So, Glen's survival was rather bleh...nothing to it. Quite clever how he killed the closest walkers quickly, and those then blocked the openings below the dumpster, protecting him from the zombies behind them. In the end no need for a secret manhole entrance to the sewers or anything fancy like that.Glad that whole saga is over now.Regarding the episode itself, well, it kind of feels like there's not much to talk about. Like nothing much happened really.I got the feeling that this was the "give all the supporting characters a few lines of dialogue so they can earn their salaries" episode. Suddenly Rosita is all talkative and a samurai teacher. The coward gets his two minutes to display more cowardice. Tara gets a chance to develop her bland character a bit by flipping Rick the bird.Other than that, not much going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Pepper Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 What the hell, board?!?Literally no posts today and only two from last night? What is going on?!?Well, it was pretty anti climatic. Everything that happened was heavily predicted. We knew Glenn would survive, even knew exactly how it would happen. We also knew the wall would fall and know that now that's it's fallen there will be a significant death toll (though probably not any of the originals, probably a lot of the Alexandrians that have received a lot of dialogue in the last two episodes). We knew that Rick was doing it wrong and that he couldn't do whatever he wanted because his own would turn on him. I think less happened in this episode than happened in Morgan's a few weeks ago.I think the only truly surprising thing was that the wall came down from the church tower toppling. I can't remember if anyone here predicted that. I think it was great that the church is ruined. Going forward, christianity is a pretty useless religion. For the religiously minded, they are going to need something new because worshipping a resurrected fellow in a world where resurrections equal death and danger is pretty laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmis Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm getting a bit tired that the writers continually keep making these Alexandria dudes fuck up for no reason.. come on. This guy is going all Ninja on a solo mission? What?Also was that church damaged in the Wolves attack, or did they knowingly have a church ready to fall on their damn wall for weeks and months? And what had happened to it? Looks like it had suffered an earthquake?I hope Carol kills Morgan and that prisoner.As for the Anderson children killing Grimes children, I kinda think that Sam will kill Judith, and Ron won't get his shot due to the falling church. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I'm getting a bit tired that the writers continually keep making these Alexandria dudes fuck up for no reason.. come on. This guy is going all Ninja on a solo mission? What?Also was that church damaged in the Wolves attack, or did they knowingly have a church ready to fall on their damn wall for weeks and months? And what had happened to it? Looks like it had suffered an earthquake?I hope Carol kills Morgan and that prisoner.As for the Anderson children killing Grimes children, I kinda think that Sam will kill Judith, and Ron won't get his shot due to the falling church.Isn't the tower where the truck hit? I remember Spencer was on watch there when he shot the truck, then because of the impact, he had trouble getting out.I like Morgan, but I hope he becomes more realistic about things.And what now on Sam killing Judith? I hope Ron mucks up his assassination attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consigliere Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 A decent episode but rather anticlimactic. This episode should have been placed after the Morgan episode but instead we got two episodes that were little more than filler which not only killed the momentum but also the tension surrounding Glenn's fate. I'm glad he survived but the payoff just isn't there because this dragged on for too long. Nice touch with the building collapsing and bringing down the wall. I don't think anyone saw that coming. I guess the speculation regarding Enid being a spy for the Wolves can be put to bed now - don't see how that would even be an option anymore. I think Ron's initial attempt to shoot Carl will fail but the confusion and mayhem caused by the walkers gaining entry to Alexandria will give him another opportunity. I could see a situation where Carl saves Ron only for Ron to turn around and shoot him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Criston of House Shapper Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This show has no guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elder Sister Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I enjoyed the episode, and I still love the show, but it's getting a wee bit tired. I was kind of jazzed about the building falling, and the wall collapsing. Surely next week will be an action-packed episode, but at this point, with Carol's cryptic/potentially problematic statement on killing to Sam all whilst leaving the helpless Judith in the house, Ron's sneaking of bullets out (with the old diversion tactic), and Morgan's determination to not have any blood on his hands (and why has no one pointed out to him that not killing those two bozos at his campfire is what caused the whole massacre? Do they not know he's run into the wolf pack before?), I'm seriously starting to root for the zombies.The zombies are low maintenance, easily understood, and have very little to say. The downside is that they are obviously stinky, and will eat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmis Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 And what now on Sam killing Judith? I hope Ron mucks up his assassination attempt.Just seemed like they foreshadowed it with Carol saying you gotta kill in order to not become one of the monsters -- then with a cut to Judith. All this at the same time the the older sibling is going after the other older sibling.. With regards to the tower, yeah - you could be right. Though I seem to remember the truck hitting the fence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewJ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 This show has no guts.On the contrary - we saw quite a bit of Nick's guts at the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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