HoodedCrow Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 And the word feminazi is highly misogynistic. Yes, just rushing Danny’s character through with a classic Hitler rally look was lazy. It is what often happens historically and in the present day. Pizzagate, anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Cygne Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 hours ago, SeanF said: A decent writer can make a character an antagonist, show their downfall, point out that fatal flaw that set them on the path of destruction - yet still portray that character as a human being, with goals and motivations that made sense to them. What we got (as you've pointed out) were pod people. Also as the actor who portrayed Drogo, Jason knew there was something big there, between them, that changed both of their lives. That needs to be honored when someone dies. He called her Khaleesi, because that is who she was, he remembered, he knew that meant something. To them she was Satan slash Hitler slash Hysterical Female, and that meant nothing at all. So many moments when she was brave, and fierce, and he was proud of her. Remember when she ate the heart, and the way he looked at her. And she never forgot him in the books. This is just normal human being stuff they just ignored. (And they ignored this with everyone, over and over and over again, throughout the series, the audience had to fill it all in for them.) His reaction was so pure and so good. I love that he cared so much about Dany. (Imagine how they'd have botched Citizen Kane... no Rosebud. Just a wet fart.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Le Cygne said: Also as the actor who portrayed Drogo, Jason knew there was something big there, between them, that changed both of their lives. That needs to be honored when someone dies. He called her Khaleesi, because that is who she was, he remembered, he knew that meant something. To them she was Satan slash Hitler slash Hysterical Female, and that meant nothing at all. So many moments when she was brave, and fierce, and he was proud of her. Remember when she ate the heart, and the way he looked at her. And she never forgot him in the books. This is just normal human being stuff they just ignored. (And they ignored this with everyone, over and over and over again, throughout the series, the audience had to fill it all in for them.) His reaction was so pure and so good. I love that he cared so much about Dany. (Imagine how they'd have botched Citizen Kane... no Rosebud. Just a wet fart.) Daenerys may be a heroic failure in the tale, when she reaches the Seven Kingdoms. I’m certain she won’t be Hitler/Satan. Of course, Ding and Ding thought that Her Satanic Majesty was their Keyser Soze revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Balerion Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Even in the show, she only became Hitlin at the last minute, and no one told Emilia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanF Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Count Balerion said: Even in the show, she only became Hitlin at the last minute, and no one told Emilia. We know that the wanton massacre of civilians was a cut and paste job, added at the last moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince of the North Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, SeanF said: We know that the wanton massacre of civilians was a cut and paste job, added at the last moment. Yes...and also pretty much like everything else then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Another observation: remember how Tyrion says that "a mind needs books like a sword needs a whetstone." How much is Tyrion shown reading in the last four seasons of the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalinar Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Remember how Varys' story about what he heard in the flames was mentioned twice and they didn't even bother to reveal what he has heard? Talking about bad writing. Why go with it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 hours ago, Dalinar said: Remember how Varys' story about what he heard in the flames was mentioned twice and they didn't even bother to reveal what he has heard? Talking about bad writing. Why go with it anyway? To be fair, I doubt we'll ever get an answer to that in the novels as well, which I'm alright with. Some mysteries are better left unsolved I feel and this one has very little inpact on the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daemon of the Blacks Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 On 9/30/2020 at 9:45 AM, Dalinar said: Remember how Varys' story about what he heard in the flames was mentioned twice and they didn't even bother to reveal what he has heard? Talking about bad writing. Why go with it anyway? Maybe the voice in the flames told him about his role in season eight. To be fair I don't think the words were important. The very fact that there even was a voice speaking back is what spooked Varys so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowy Tends Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 https://7bucksapop.com/collections/other-lines/products/the-creators-game-of-thrones-3-pk-2018-fall-convention-exclusive-damaged-7-11 I'd like to wrote something smart or funny, but I can't find the words… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Eyes Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 9/14/2020 at 8:10 PM, Count Balerion said: Battle of the Bastards. I'm no m,ilitary tactician, but even I saw it was pretty dismal. Well they got even more dismal in "The Long Night". If Rohan used Westerosi tactics they would have lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Balerion Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 They were pretty bad. It was probably a mercy that I saw as little as I did. (Is that why the visuals were so bad? Nah, they wouldn't have known the tactics werre bad, so had no motive to hide them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalinar Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Angel Eyes said: Well they got even more dismal in "The Long Night". If Rohan used Westerosi tactics they would have lost. It was based on a historical battle. Battle of Cannae? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Dalinar said: It was based on a historical battle. Battle of Cannae? ??? Which battle was based on Cannae? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 GRRM discusses the Hodor moment as it appeared on the show: https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/game-of-thrones-george-r-r-martin-on-how-hodors-origin-story-was-changed-for-tv/ He also comments on show Littlefinger: Quote Among countless other interesting details across the cast and creators, Martin also discusses a key difference between his version of character of Petyr Baelish, aka Littlefinger, and the character as he appears on screen, as played by Aiden Gillen. “My Littlefinger would never have turned Sansa over to Ramsay,” Martin tells Hibberd. “Never. He’s obsessed with her.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalinar Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: ??? Which battle was based on Cannae? Battle of the Bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 18 minutes ago, Dalinar said: Battle of the Bastards Extremely loosely influenced, at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalinar Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Corvinus85 said: Extremely loosely influenced, at best. So they didn't copy-pasted every detail from the battle? I am shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dalinar said: So they didn't copy-pasted every detail from the battle? I am shocked. I was actually being generous because I don't from where this information about Cannae is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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