Terrorthatflapsinthenight9 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 The Seven Kingdoms of Westeros have given birth and seen grow, live and die countless men who took the oath of chivalry and became knights. Over its very long history, and in all of its kingdoms, Westeros has seen all kind of knights: people who were idealistic, more cynical individuals, men interested above all by the fame and prestige given by their rank, others by money, nobles, people coming from the bottom of society, individuals with outstanding skills with the sword and/or the spear, weaklings, cheaters, outright monsters such as Gregor Clegane or Ser Armory Loch, etc... But who amongst these many many knights really incarnated the values of honor, justice, strength and loyalty all at the same time that the stories, tales and the code of chivalry describe ? Who is the best knight that Westeros has ever known, who lived by these ideals and never betrayed them under any circumstance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denam_Pavel Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Ser Gyles Morrigen and the Dragonknight seem the two best examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Well the dragonknight knocked up his sister and put his illegitimate bastard on the Iron Throne and lied to everyone including his king about the whole thing (or so I've heard) so he's out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Claude Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: Well the dragonknight knocked up his sister and put his illegitimate bastard on the Iron Throne and lied to everyone including his king about the whole thing (or so I've heard) so he's out. Heh. I see what you did there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Ser Duncan the Tall obv Ser Arthur Dayne, Sword of the Morning (finest knight Ned ever saw, tho I'm waiting till everything is clear on Rhaegar) Ser Jon Snow 998th LC of the NW Ser Beric Dondarrion Ser Barristan Selmy the Bold Ser Brienne of Tarth (humph) and the one from her childhood tale (if we incl legends then Symeon Star eyes too) Ser Davos Onion Seaworth Ser Rodrik Cassel Ser Gendry Baratheon Ser Bonifer Hasty (before he became a heartbroken man turned to religion?) Dragonknight, Breakspear, Morrigen, Garlan Gallant, W Darry etc if you like Numerous Kings guard too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheLastWolf said: and the one from her childhood tale "I should have used the sword, I should have used the bloody sword" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastWolf Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: "I should have used the sword, I should have used the bloody sword" Now I remember, Clarence Crab of Crackclaw Point and Galladon of Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loose Bolt Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Harry the Ham. After all he was real AA Reborn. But unfortunately he died long time ago and so all humans in Planetos are doomed unless HtH will reborn again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Peres Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Duncan the Tall and is not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, Arthur Peres said: Duncan the Tall and is not even close. Really? He's not even a real knight and he's passing himself off as one. That's quite an unchivalrous deception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EggBlue Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Ned says Arthur Dayne . then again Ned thinks Robert is a good man , child killing fear aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Peres Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: Really? He's not even a real knight and he's passing himself off as one. That's quite an unchivalrous deception And he still the best one by far. He even raised one of the very few decent Targeryan Kings in Egg. Dragonkight, might or might not have cucked his king... Arthur Dayne died fighting a lost civil war trying to stop a brother to see his dying sister. Barristan is the next close thing to a good knight, but the sad thing is that he served the wrong king...twice. Daemon Blackfyre tried to usurp the crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Ser Duncan the Tall by a land mile. Ser Basrristan comes close though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugorfonics Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Pate the pig boy. He's the only believable one. Quote "So many vows . . . they make you swear and swear. Defend the king. Obey the king. Keep his secrets. Do his bidding. Your life for his. But obey your father. Love your sister. Protect the innocent. Defend the weak. Respect the gods. Obey the laws. It's too much. No matter what you do, you're forsaking one vow or the other." Unbelievable! Let's take a close look Quote He charged me to be a good knight and true, to obey the seven gods, defend the weak and innocent, serve my lord faithfully and defend the realm with all my might, and I swore that I would." Defending weak and innocent, I think that may be a big one. I see lots of Arthur Dayne, let's take a look at how contemporaries behaved Quote The day he burned his mace-and-dagger Hand, Jaime and Jon Darry had stood at guard outside her bedchamber whilst the king took his pleasure. "You're hurting me," they had heard Rhaella cry through the oaken door. "You're hurting me." In some queer way, that had been worse than Lord Chelsted's screaming. "We are sworn to protect her as well," Jaime had finally been driven to say. "We are," Darry allowed, "but not from him." And this is where honor dies. A knight may want to be chivalrous, but his lord will never let him. Davos may want to fight for the gods but he's dancing to Rhllors tune and even the idealic Dunk sells out his hedge for a cloak. I like that one knight, but not a knight, and probably gonna sell out to Catelyn because an oath given is honor betrayed. Quote "Slowly now," she told the boy. "They may take us for outlaws. Say no more than you must and be courteous." "I will, ser. Be courteous. My lady." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only 89 selfies today Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Ser Barristan Selmy. It's never too late to atone for mistakes and he is doing just that. He served many unworthy leaders until finally he found the leader who is most worthy of his service in young Daenerys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 “I’m no Ser.” Sandor “the Hound” Clegane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aebram Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 If we want to limit this to knights who actually appear on the pages, as opposed to just being described or remembered by other characters, then the ones who stand out for me are Barristan, Davos, and Duncan. They all try to keep their oaths and stand by their principles, no matter how difficult or morally ambiguous the situation may be. I especially like the chapter where Davos has to give some bad news to Stannis, and Stannis gets angry and says, "I should have your tongue out," and Davos replies, "it's your tongue; do with it what you will." Now that's commitment! And of course Stannis calms down at once, realizing what a good servant Davos is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 15 hours ago, Arthur Peres said: And he still the best one by far. He even raised one of the very few decent Targeryan Kings in Egg. Doesn't Egg wipe out nearly his whole family trying to bring back dragons? Egg's whole midlife perspective that he needs dragons to enforce his will over his lords is tyrannical and the only thing that saved him from being remembered as Aegon the Cook was the fact that his plans didn't work. If had his way he would have put himself on a path that Maegor the Cruel would have admired. Cute kid though, I really like the D&E stories (but I think the last one is going to be a bit of a painful read). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 46 minutes ago, Aejohn the Conqueroo said: Doesn't Egg wipe out nearly his whole family trying to bring back dragons? Egg's whole midlife perspective that he needs dragons to enforce his will over his lords is tyrannical and the only thing that saved him from being remembered as Aegon the Cook was the fact that his plans didn't work. If had his way he would have put himself on a path that Maegor the Cruel would have admired. Cute kid though, I really like the D&E stories (but I think the last one is going to be a bit of a painful read). But he was doing it for the peasants, wasn't he? Unlike Maegor who was just out for himself, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aejohn the Conqueroo Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Craving Peaches said: But he was doing it for the peasants, wasn't he? Unlike Maegor who was just out for himself, it seems. How many of those same peasants would he have ended up roasting when their lords opposed him and ordered them to war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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