The BlackBear Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 The last thread ended on the greatest possible note: Get HYPED! How they pull it all together will be some feat. I just hope it isn't Arrested Development S4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/07/can-hbo-give-deadwood-a-proper-ending/566321/ Quote ....Had Deadwood premiered in 2014 rather than 2004, at the beginnings of the “Peak TV” era, rather than the premium cable “golden age” of a decade prior, it never would have been canceled. Now even the most marginal hits are championed by their networks as centerpieces, and any show that garners Emmy attention is practically guaranteed to stay on the air. Big Little Lies was made as a miniseries and still got a renewal from HBO; the streaming network Netflix has renewed low-buzz shows like Altered Carbon and Ozark despite their mixed reviews. Deadwood is rightly regarded as one of the greatest shows in TV history, along with HBO’s other totemic contributions The Sopranos and The Wire (which it aired alongside). But unlike those two dramas, it never got a proper conclusion, ending on a confused, if at times poignant, note. The death of one semimajor character played a big role in the inadvertent series finale, “Tell Him Something Pretty,” but so did the antics of a theater troupe that was entirely irrelevant to the larger plot. And though so many of Deadwood’s outstanding cast have gone on to other great opportunities, huge talents like McShane, McRaney, Timothy Olyphant, Paula Malcomson, and Robin Weigert couldn’t hope to top the depth and complexity of the roles Milch wrote for them.... Not exactly on topic but still, "Peak Television" has been invoked so often, yet it feels that peak tv has more than peaked in the last two years. The announcements for new series seems to be exclusively for sequels, prequels, reboots and comix franchises. Plus stand-up comedy shows and documentaries. Brilliant, original scripted drama seems over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 8 hours ago, Zorral said: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/07/can-hbo-give-deadwood-a-proper-ending/566321/ Not exactly on topic but still, "Peak Television" has been invoked so often, yet it feels that peak tv has more than peaked in the last two years. The announcements for new series seems to be exclusively for sequels, prequels, reboots and comix franchises. Plus stand-up comedy shows and documentaries. Brilliant, original scripted drama seems over. Brilliant original scripted drama is really hard to do. If one a year comes up I am shocked and surprised. In the meantime I watch second rate shows that show the occasional glimmer of brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Very excited for this. I have to be honest though, I'm more in it for the fan service/nostalgia/curiosity than the notion that Deadwood needs a 'proper ending'. My understanding is that Milch works a lot on feel and instinct, and he never had a particularly firm grasp on how Deadwood would go plot-wise in Season 4. I can't find a quote to back me up on that but someone might be able to help me out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 16 hours ago, Zorral said: https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/07/can-hbo-give-deadwood-a-proper-ending/566321/ Not exactly on topic but still, "Peak Television" has been invoked so often, yet it feels that peak tv has more than peaked in the last two years. The announcements for new series seems to be exclusively for sequels, prequels, reboots and comix franchises. Plus stand-up comedy shows and documentaries. Brilliant, original scripted drama seems over. I think there's an argument for plateauing particularly with second seasons to a lot of shows failing to live up to the initial promise. But there's still a lot of great shows popping up (sharp objects) and consistently strong shows (breaking bad). We are getting more mutton dressed as lamb programming eg superhero shows masquerading as fine drama but I think many of those would have been considered as high tier programming 5+ years ago which attests to the quality out there. Increased Access and acceptance of non English shows is also helping keep things fresh. 7 hours ago, Paxter said: Very excited for this. I have to be honest though, I'm more in it for the fan service/nostalgia/curiosity than the notion that Deadwood needs a 'proper ending'. My understanding is that Milch works a lot on feel and instinct, and he never had a particularly firm grasp on how Deadwood would go plot-wise in Season 4. I can't find a quote to back me up on that but someone might be able to help me out! Historically there was a fire in deadwood and milch was showing the seeds for that with the storyline of the guy wanting to create a fire service. Whether that was intended to happen in season 4 or the film I'm not sure though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 12:18 PM, Zorral said: Not exactly on topic but still, "Peak Television" has been invoked so often, yet it feels that peak tv has more than peaked in the last two years. Oh ya the golden age has been over for a minute imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Today I saw the list of the 12 returning actors to the Deadwood movie from the television series. Kim Dickens is among them. http://collider.com/deadwood-movie-cast-synopsis/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, Zorral said: Today I saw the list of the 12 returning actors to the Deadwood movie from the television series. Kim Dickens is among them. http://collider.com/deadwood-movie-cast-synopsis/ It's becoming hard to believe that isn't another false start. It's going to be really weird watching this. I need to do a rewatch as it's been over a decade since I watched the show but the rub will be the difference in ages in the actors will be harder to ignore. I'm guessing not that nuch time will have passed in-story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, red snow said: It's becoming hard to believe that isn't another false start. It's going to be really weird watching this. I need to do a rewatch as it's been over a decade since I watched the show but the rub will be the difference in ages in the actors will be harder to ignore. I'm guessing not that nuch time will have passed in-story? About the same amount. The original series took place in 1876-77, the movie takes place in 1889. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGalley Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, Werthead said: About the same amount. The original series took place in 1876-77, the movie takes place in 1889. Yeah I read somewhere that South Dakota has achieved statehood as a larger political backdrop to the town's politics, machinations and violence. Edit: woah.. wasn't expecting Hearst in this. It's also curious they didn't mention Dan or Johnny but maybe this list isn't comprehensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martini Sigil Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 No Wu, No Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 12 minutes ago, WarGalley said: Yeah I read somewhere that South Dakota has achieved statehood as a larger political backdrop to the town's politics, machinations and violence. Edit: woah.. wasn't expecting Hearst in this. It's also curious they didn't mention Dan or Johnny but maybe list isn't comprehensive. Apparently every living actor/character will be back, although some might only be very brief appearances (none of the deceased actors' roles will be recast). The sole exception is Titus Welliver's Silas, because he's in the middle of filming Bosch and there was no way he could make it out to the shoot and back again even for a day. Apparently they tried to make it work but nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen'ari Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 21 hours ago, Martini Sigil said: No Wu, No Peace. Perhaps he's otherwise engaged giving blowjobs in San Fransisco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Antony Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/19/deadwood-movie-photos/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nictarion Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Mark Antony said: https://ew.com/tv/2018/12/19/deadwood-movie-photos/ Ok now I can actually believe it’s happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Relic Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 25 minutes ago, Nictarion said: Ok now I can actually believe it’s happening. Doc, EB, Utter, Al...good lord, there IS a god, after all. I'm soooo in. Second best show of all time, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxter Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Haha yes, it's almost surreal this is happening. I'll have to do a series re-watch before it gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Please don't ruin this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramsay B. Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Glad to see that George Hearst is gonna be in it too. Looks like I’m doing a rewatch soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The BlackBear Posted December 20, 2018 Author Share Posted December 20, 2018 Any word on how much time has passed in story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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