Gaston de Foix Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Vaughn said: The problems with this theory is that 1) the Magi are so, so, so much more powerful than anyone else we've met in these books (Teleportation (or invisibility, unclear), mind control, etc... ) and 2) the rest of the exceptionalists were wiped out at the end of Book 3 so I'd say the Falconer is a one man band. He got Patience by surprise I guess (still a bit iffy, IMO, how she died so easily) but there are other 4-5 ring Magi who were her allies who survived - he's weaker than them and can't surprise all of them. My guess is the Falconer tries to harness/team up with the dark forces Patience is afraid of, opens up a Pandora's jar* of ills and that's the end showdown of the series. Shout out to How Did This Get Made for that fact. Is the Falconer weaker than the 4-5 ring magi? I understood the Dreamsteel to be augmenting his abilities such as through his control of multiple birds. If the other Quietists realize what happened to Patience and can unite then of course they can take him to the cleaners. But you have to wonder if Patience's death will disrupt their ability to coordinate. I actually think the solution to (1) is that Locke or others will try to provoke the Visigoths to come visit as a way of counterbalancing the magi, if it is in fact true that Visigoths destroy magic users. After all they did not destroy humans or the Eldren buildings the last time they visited... I guess the other possibility is an alliance between the remaining Quietists and Locke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 9:24 PM, Gaston de Foix said: Is the Falconer weaker than the 4-5 ring magi? I understood the Dreamsteel to be augmenting his abilities such as through his control of multiple birds. If the other Quietists realize what happened to Patience and can unite then of course they can take him to the cleaners. But you have to wonder if Patience's death will disrupt their ability to coordinate. I actually think the solution to (1) is that Locke or others will try to provoke the Visigoths to come visit as a way of counterbalancing the magi, if it is in fact true that Visigoths destroy magic users. After all they did not destroy humans or the Eldren buildings the last time they visited... I guess the other possibility is an alliance between the remaining Quietists and Locke. i'm going to have to do a re read before this comes out, I have no f'ing clue what you are on about. baxus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) On 8/23/2019 at 4:42 AM, BigFatCoward said: i'm going to have to do a re read before this comes out, I have no f'ing clue what you are on about. LOL. I am in the midst of a re-read myself. Now backtracked to RSURS. My recollection was that it was pretty stand-alone and didn't have much to tell us about where the series was heading. I'm not so sure now. There is the obvious question of who Merrain is working for, since she succeeds in spoiling the relationship between Stragos and the GB very effectively (by murdering the officers at the prison). The Black Table of Emberlain would be my guess. There are tantalizing hints that there exist magical forces in the world that have not summoned the doom of the Eldren upon themselves, such as the sirens/creatures in the Parlour Passage, whose powers extend to some form of telepathy. There is the mysterious fate of the settlers of Hope of Silver. There is the Eldren underwater city. I suspect we will revisit some of these places and mysteries. Edited September 4, 2019 by Gaston de Foix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughn Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 On 8/23/2019 at 5:14 AM, Gaston de Foix said: LOL. I am in the midst of a re-read myself. Now backtracked to RSURS. My recollection was that it was pretty stand-alone and didn't have much to tell us about where the series was heading. I'm not so sure now. There is the obvious question of who Merrain is working for, since she succeeds in spoiling the relationship between Stragos and the GB very effectively (by murdering the officers at the prison). The Black Table of Emberlain would be my guess. There are tantalizing hints that there exist magical forces in the world that have not summoned the doom of the Eldren upon themselves, such as the sirens/creatures in the Parlour Passage, whose powers extend to some form of telepathy. There is the mysterious fate of the settlers of Hope of Silver. There is the Eldren underwater city. I suspect we will revisit some of these places and mysteries. Locke and Jean visit Atlantis - sign me up! I had forgotten about Merrain until I skimmed book 2 this weekend. That's more interesting to me that the Falconer, who is clearly just an a-hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 I've done some googling to see if there is any news on the manuscript that Lynch turned in earlier this year and I've found nothing. I'm hoping someone else's google foo is better than mine. Anyone have news? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sologdin Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) dunno, scot. but his twitter is full of star wars talk, so no one should search there looking for ToE updates unless they have seen episode IX already. that said, the speculation descended very quickly to ewoks being the fremen of the SW setting: they will subjugate the universe. endor is a prison planet. yub-nub is a killing word. we are amused (though the latter point is disputed by learned professionals here). Edited December 20, 2019 by sologdin Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Scott and his publishers had a meeting at WorldCon in August to go over the MS and put together a release plan, which would be announced at the right time. They haven't announced it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Werthead said: Scott and his publishers had a meeting at WorldCon in August to go over the MS and put together a release plan, which would be announced at the right time. They haven't announced it yet. Thank you. That’s better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red snow Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 20 hours ago, sologdin said: dunno, scot. but his twitter is full of star wars talk, so no one should search there looking for ToE updates unless they have seen episode IX already. that said, the speculation descended very quickly to ewoks being the fremen of the SW setting: they will subjugate the universe. endor is a prison planet. yub-nub is a killing word. we are amused (though the latter point is disputed by learned professionals here). Maybe he's writing a star wars comic or novel? Maybe even a film/tv trilogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 According to Locus Forthcoming Books, The Thorn of Emberlain will be published in September 2020: https://locusmag.com/forthcomingbooks/ The list is tentative and subject to change by publishers, especially for books scheduled later in the year. The hairy bear, john, Which Tyler and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Jussi said: According to Locus Forthcoming Books, The Thorn of Emberlain will be published in September 2020: https://locusmag.com/forthcomingbooks/ Great news if true. Scott is a hugely talented writer and his world is worthy of a broader readership/television series. Edited January 15, 2020 by Gaston de Foix Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Hope this turns out to be true. It means two long overdue books to be delivered this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Hope this turns out to be true. It means two long overdue books to be delivered this year. What’s the second? Or is that sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Darth Richard II said: What’s the second? Or is that sarcasm. Peace Talks from Jim Butcher’s “Dresden Files”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Richard II Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Ah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 17 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Peace Talks from Jim Butcher’s “Dresden Files”. The last novel in the series was published in 2014. A six-year wait? Pfah. These people don't know they are born. Ser Scot A Ellison and john 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Nevertheless I can't remember a bloody thing of what was happening. Will have to reread at least few of the last ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calibandar Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 The Del Rey releases on Amazon.com are now up until October and this book is not listed. Nor is it on Gollancz listings for Amazon Uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 This is one of the rare examples of books I believe in no sooner than I see it on a bookstore shelf. I do believe it will happen eventually, not very hopeful for this year though. Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaston de Foix Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 20 hours ago, Calibandar said: The Del Rey releases on Amazon.com are now up until October and this book is not listed. Nor is it on Gollancz listings for Amazon Uk. Hmm. Does this mean that Doors of Stone is not releasing this year either? Gollancz is PR's UK publisher... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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