Lord Varys Posted September 19, 2022 Share Posted September 19, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DMC said: Well, this seems to be putting on some rose-colored glasses IRT Corlys. He traveled the world, yes, but he also became the richest man in Westeros based on those journeys. That almost certainly entails some boot-stomping of such exotic places and cultures. I agree he shouldn't be compared to Columbus or de Gama, but he's also clearly no saint. Corlys' second and his final voyage (the latter most of all) were greatly profitable ... his search for a northern passage through the ice and his voyage along the northern coastline of Essos seem to have been very dangerous and costly. That's the desire of a man who wants to see the world. A man who wants to make profit would find easier and less dangerous ways. The entire characterization of the man is that of a man who wants to see and explore new things ... in this sense he and Elissa are both very much akin to many of the other explorer figures in George's earlier works - the astronaut from 'Slide Show', the young narrator of 'Night Shift', the protagonist of 'The Stone City', etc. Of that there is pretty much nothing in the character as written in the episode ... aside from, perhaps, him championing his wife's claim. Although even that comes across as somewhat petty and weird if his wife herself has long gotten over this 'slight'. 14 minutes ago, DMC said: All that aside, Corlys clearly IS very progressive by Westerosi standards, both in the books and the show. However, I think your blind spot is assuming just because someone has a progressive view on homosexuality he still wouldn't be in denial about his own son. It's fundamentally different. I'm not saying this portrayal of Corlys is unrealistic, I merely indicated that I didn't like this take. Corlys could just as well have been a father who actually knew his son well enough to understand that he would never get much out of a relationship with a woman. Especially, you know, in light of the fact that he was in love with a man at that particular time and may have been so in the past. Not to mention speculative homoerotic/homosexual experiences Corlys either made or witnessed during his many voyages. Women usually are a rare sight on a ship in a medieval setting, and one imagines that folks needed to stay warm ... and more than warm on the Ice Wolf. The Corlys as portrayed would more likely be a man pushing Laenor to live with his wife - which didn't happen in the book. 17 minutes ago, RumHam said: Wait...what? Oh, well: Quote There have been reports that we are going to get a scene in the next episode where Alicent gives Larys a good view of her feet so he can masturbate on them while she, well, milks him for information. No idea if that episode makes it into the show. Edited September 19, 2022 by Lord Varys RumHam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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