kissdbyfire Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 What. Deadlines? What Deadlines? and Crixus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Heartofice said: Braverman just doubling down now. It’s insane. At least admit the part she played. Sure there were some quite troubling elements in the anti Israel marches, which shouldn’t be brushed over, but pretending she didn’t partly cause a bunch of neo Nazis and pissed football hooligans to travel to London just seems like gaslighting at this point. She’s totally downplaying it in these tweets, it’s almost incredible how brazen it is. Yup. Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka Tommy Robinson) led a group of his thugs until shit started to look real. Then he hopped into a Pride(!) taxi and got the fuck out of dodge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: What. In other words Tony's got the experience covering up massacres and sweeping them under the rug. Craving Peaches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Anti-Targ Posted November 12, 2023 Share Posted November 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zorral said: In other words Tony's got the experience covering up massacres and sweeping them under the rug. And justifying wars on false pretences. Blair has already lost any chance of being remembered by history as being a [morally] good international statesman. Helping Israel to break the backs and stand on the necks of the Palestinian people isn't going to make the history books be any less kind to him. Deadlines? What Deadlines? and Craving Peaches 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Braverman’s finally been sacked Crixus, Which Tyler, Craving Peaches and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Took him a while to find his backbone, it was hiding in Boris's fridge. Crixus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving Peaches Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 9 hours ago, kissdbyfire said: What Look at his cold, empty eyes - the perfect man for the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Waiting for the Braverman 'You may strike me down, but I will become more powerful than you could possibly imagine' speech. Craving Peaches 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 The really interesting bit is the idea that David Cameron is being appointed to a senior job. That has to be a signal that Sunak is aiming to go more centrist in the runup to the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljkeane Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) About time. Regardless of her political leanings she was just terrible at her job. Having someone that useless in such an important position shows just how weak Sunak is. ETA: Cameron’s the new Foreign Secretary. Giving such a senior job to someone who isn’t an MP is, er, interesting. Edited November 13, 2023 by ljkeane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 25 minutes ago, ljkeane said: About time. Regardless of her political leanings she was just terrible at her job. Having someone that useless in such an important position shows just how weak Sunak is. ETA: Cameron’s the new Foreign Secretary. Giving such a senior job to someone who isn’t an MP is, er, interesting. They’ll have to make him a lord asap Fragile Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 reading between the lines 'we literally have nobody competent to cover even the very few offices of state, out of our 350 MP's, we don't have any that are up to the job'. Craving Peaches and Which Tyler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 1 hour ago, mormont said: The really interesting bit is the idea that David Cameron is being appointed to a senior job. That has to be a signal that Sunak is aiming to go more centrist in the runup to the election. Yep. He must know he’s got no chance with the far right of the party, who’ve been wowed by Braverman, Badenoch, among others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) So Cameron... Quite a clever attempt by Sunak to change the political narrative, give a "back to the adults" vibe, and signal a shift centrewards. While putting Cameron in a position where he can't actually do much to push the Tories back to the centre. But what was Cameron thinking? Okay he is probably a bit desperate because his post PM career has suffered from having the albatross of calling that stupid referendum and then mismanaging it so badly around his neck. But his only claim to dignity came from his immediate resignation afterwards. And now? Every foreign dignitary he meets is going to be sniggering "Brexit" at him behind his back! He is lumbering himself with prime responsibility for putting lipstick on the pig that he himself allowed to escape from its sty. Edited November 13, 2023 by A wilding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartofice Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Yeah Sunak trying to run on some 'change' agenda is just stupid, who has been in power all this time. The whole Braverman idea is they are fighting back against the people in power.. but that's the Tories. So Sunak should just stick to trying to appear to be the boring, but sensible candidate, and we can have a boring and sensible election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ljkeane Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, A wilding said: But what was Cameron thinking? Okay he is probably a bit desperate because his post PM career has suffered from having the albatross of calling that stupid referendum and then mismanaging it so badly around his neck. But his only claim to dignity came from his immediate resignation afterwards. And now? Every foreign dignitary he meets is going to be sniggering "Brexit" at him behind his back! He is lumbering himself with prime responsibility for putting lipstick on the pig that he himself allowed to escape from its sty. I think the whole Greensill thing has probably put a bit of a dampener on his post Parliament life. He gets to come back to a prominent position, he's probably going to get to go to a lot of important meetings with world leaders with the wars in the Middle East and Ukraine going on but, you know, probably not really have to do anything significant. He's also unlikely to get too much of the blame for the inevitable Tory election loss because firstly the ship has already sailed and secondly foreign policy is unlikely to make much difference. Basically it's a nice ego boost for him without a lot of downside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Plus he gets his peerage somewhat earlier than he would have done otherwise Fragile Bird 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mormont Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Coffey's gone too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfel Cadarn Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 What a shock. Not sure what makes them think she could win a general election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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