Phylum of Alexandria Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 9 minutes ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Are these the officers who were escorting people into the Capitol? Do tell… Oh, he'll have a convenient response at the ready. And he'll "just ask questions" about Biden's role in BLM or some such nonsense. I'm not at all interested in his trollish fantasies about the world. I am interested in how he assumed this trollish role. If you'd care to explain @mcbigski, I'd love to hear your tale of woe. Of how and why you choose to don the Richard III garb. That story would at least have some truth to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry of the Lawn Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 hours ago, mcbigski said: Wikipedia is usually more accurate than ChatGPT. What do you personally think Michelle Obama's qualifications for US President are, apart from the Constitutional minimums? What do you think she excels at such that she's even in the top 2500 out of 250 million or so eligible candidates? I also liked gas under $2 dollars a gallon, no new wars in 4 years, lower minority unemployment, rule of law, an actual strategic petroleum reserve, energy independence, some border enforcement, 50% lower steak costs, a media that actually questions power, progress towards peace in the Middle East instead of permanent war for the arms manufacturers, no war in Ukraine to benefit arms manufacturers, and probably a few dozen other substantive things. But if you're submerged in the CNN/WaPo/AP/MSNBC billionaire owned curated media feed, well you're not the only one being bamboozled. But I'm sure you're heart is in the right place. So you can vote for an unqualified candidate because you like the policies you believe they'll implement, but it's not ok for the other party to run an unqualified candidate (but still vastly more qualified than your guy) who they can rely on to push for the policies they want? It sounds like you don't particularly care for Trump but prefer GOP policy. Is it so difficult to imagine there are many people who vote Dem making a similar calculus? I want a world where my hard earned money doesn't go to the rich, where cops aren't going into schools looking for books, where the environment is being poisoned to raise shareholder profits, and where woman aren't forced to give birth. I'm not particularly convinced the Dems are the people who are going to get all that done, but I know for a fact that Republicans are actively working to create a world I don't want to live in. A "qualified" president would be nice, but personally I'd rather just keep the right wing Jesus freaks and psychotic greed cult out of power. Fragile Bird, kissdbyfire, The Mance and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fionwe1987 Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Given the alternative is a legit insurrectionist, I think there's hundreds of millions of Americans more qualified to be president. House Balstroko and Prince of the North 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 I gotta say, I never expected to find a tRumper here… But hey, variety is the spice of life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 39 minutes ago, Larry of the Lawn said: A "qualified" president would be nice, but personally I'd rather just keep the right wing Jesus freaks and psychotic greed cult out of power. It's not as bad in the UK but similar. I look back on previous Tory administrations with a warm glow. When and why did we lower the bar so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 5 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: When and why did we lower the bar so much? 2016. Brexit in the UK and the nomination of a orange clown in the US. Those were the moments the wheels really came off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 3 hours ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: And thus the ascend of ty's mum to the Presidency started. She'd quit the day after she had her current boss quietly assassinated. Edited January 7 by Mr. Chatywin et al. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 34 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: 2016. Brexit in the UK and the nomination of a orange clown in the US. Those were the moments the wheels really came off. I'd argue the bar had to have already been lowered to allow those things to happen, but it was certainly around then. Liffguard and Bironic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kissdbyfire Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 45 minutes ago, A Horse Named Stranger said: 2016. Brexit in the UK and the nomination of a orange clown in the US. Those were the moments the wheels really came off. Might this nomination have something to do w/ the election and reelection of a certain intelligent, articulate, kind, elegant (and gorgeous) black man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Migration, cannabis and abortion come together in this story. Marijuana Buyers From Texas Fuel a ‘Little Amsterdam’ in New Mexico Sunland Park, along the Rio Grande, has joined the ranks of U.S. cities transformed by state cannabis laws. But the good times may not last forever. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/07/us/marijuana-new-mexico-sunland-park.html Quote .... As a town on the border with Mexico, Sunland Park is the kind of place where policies set by faraway lawmakers are readily apparent — and not just the ones on marijuana. Recently, Gov. Greg Abbott of Texas had his state’s National Guard troops place concertina wire along the international border with Mexico, an effort to hold back migrants trying to cross illegally; then he extended it to the state line between Texas and New Mexico, whose governor, a Democrat, has both expressed concern about the high number of crossings and sought to protect the rights of migrant children. The state line also represents a stark divide on abortion. Most abortion is illegal in Texas, but billboards in El Paso advertise abortion services available at clinics in Sunland Park and in nearby Las Cruces. Adrienne Mansanares, chief executive of Planned Parenthood of the Rocky Mountains, said the disparity was apparent to her during a recent visit to the organization’s clinic in Las Cruces. “The waiting room was full of people from Texas,” she said. Texas law enforcement officers cannot stop women from seeking abortions in New Mexico. Nor have they made much effort to stem the tide of marijuana arriving in the other direction from Sunland Park, even as a rising number of young people bringing vape cartridges to schools in El Paso has become a concern. “If we catch you, we catch you,” said Ryan Urrutia, the patrol commander for the El Paso County Sheriff’s office. Nicolás Hernández, 43, an El Paso resident who was helping a friend fix up a property in Sunland Park on a recent afternoon, said concern about how the Texas police would respond to all the Texans bringing marijuana home from New Mexico had faded. “All my friends that have done it, they were super paranoid the first time,” he said. “And by the second or third time, they don’t even think about it.” .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: You seem to be confusing the presidency with a good dating profile. Hey for one of the elections it came down to: "who would you rather have a beer with." I'd also prefer having a beer with First Lady Obama than with those who voted for the bushwad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Just now, Zorral said: Hey for one of the elections it came down to: "who would you rather have a beer with." I'd also prefer having a beer with First Lady Obama than with those who voted for the bushwad. Come on, I hate trump but a night on the piss with him would be fucking electric. She'd be boring as shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 27 minutes ago, kissdbyfire said: Might this nomination have something to do w/ the election and reelection of a certain intelligent, articulate, kind, elegant (and gorgeous) black man? Wait, when did Idris Elba get elected? j/k Zorral, fionwe1987, kissdbyfire and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigoTheCarpathian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 10 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Come on, I hate trump but a night on the piss with him would be fucking electric Electric meaning you get to watch a sober paranoid go wild? Show you some classified documents, brag and lie all evening, and then stick you with with the bill at end of the night? Also the high likelihood you’re sitting with the smelly person at the bar, and that you’re likely to witness the saddest and creepiest attempt at sexual assault you can imagine? I’d rather take a 20 homeless drug addicts out on the piss - far better company to keep, without most of the drawbacks. DireWolfSpirit, LongRider, Phylum of Alexandria and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VigoTheCarpathian said: Electric meaning you get to watch a sober paranoid go wild? Show you some classified documents, brag and lie all evening, and then stick you with with the bill at end of the night? Also the high likelihood you’re sitting with the smelly person at the bar, and that you’re likely to witness the saddest and creepiest attempt at sexual assault you can imagine? Yeah, how doesn't that sound amazing? Maybe apart from the sexual assault bit, but as long as we are in the UK I can deal with that. You should see my wife when she drinks 6 expresso martinis in an hour. Edited January 7 by BigFatCoward Jace, Extat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Horse Named Stranger Posted January 7 Author Share Posted January 7 21 minutes ago, LongRider said: Wait, when did Idris Elba get elected? j/k Well, the UK had Kwasi Kwarteng as chancellor, and as bfc assured me, that's as good as Idris Elba, if not better. kissdbyfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigoTheCarpathian Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Yeah, how doesn't that sound amazing? Maybe apart from the sexual assault bit, but as long as we are in the UK I can deal with that. I mean, I guess there could be some fantasy scenario ground rules where it would be a good time (I.e., if Trump actually had to acknowledge your existence and talk with you as a person rather than just launching into grievances and ignoring you because you’re a low status loser [assuming he thinks this about anyone who can’t do anything for him financially], if he had to actually fight someone he pissed off instead of his lackeys or the secret service doing it, if you can record him vomit-weeping behind a dumpster, if he actually has to pay for shit). But I’ve been out with enough maniacs to know that the reality of being shackled to one for an evening is really far from pleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) 59 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: Come on, I hate trump but a night on the piss with him would be fucking electric. She'd be boring as shit. You all remember the accounts of Bushwad's benders, including just going AWOL for two weeks, until he got Jesus and got sober? But we still have you your preferred gross and disgusting politician too! Knock yourself out. Lauren Boebert’s Ex Called The Cops After Physical Fight in Public on Saturday Night BREAKING Police confirmed an “active investigation” into the incident, while a Boebert aide told The Daily Beast that the congresswoman was acting in self-defense. https://www.thedailybeast.com/lauren-boeberts-ex-husband-jayson-called-the-cops-after-physical-fight-in-public#:~:text=Jayson Boebert%2C apparently outraged%2C called,an officer at the restaurant. Quote On Saturday night, three years to the day after supporters of Donald Trump attacked the U.S. Capitol building, election objecting Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO) is the subject of an active police investigation into an alleged physical altercation with her ex-husband, Jayson Boebert, at a restaurant in her district Saturday night. The Silt Police Department confirmed an “active investigation” in a phone call Saturday night, but would not comment further. A Boebert aide told The Daily Beast that no one was arrested. .... It's hilarious that dfs are howling about Michele Obama's presidential qualifications when she has expressed zero, none ambition that way, and just the opposite. After having to deal nitwits for 8+ years as First Lady while retaining graciousness, she's making sure she never has to again. Edited January 7 by Zorral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liffguard Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, BigFatCoward said: I'd argue the bar had to have already been lowered to allow those things to happen Yeah exactly. Arguably things took a noticeable turn for the worse in 2016, but it's not like things were just chugging along swimingly beforehand and millions of people decided to lob some political molotov cocktails at the establishment for no reason at all. There was already a very deep rot. It's impossible to put an exact date on it. If I had to, I'd say that 2008 was the turning point, along with the subsequent refusal among the political mainstream to acknowledge that 2008 had in fact occurred. But then, 2008 itself was just the culmination of processes that had begun long before. Durckad and Larry of the Lawn 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 (edited) I'd say with Ronald Reagan and Newt Gingrich. With them came the erosion of local reportage as the newspapers and radio stations were taken over by wealthy 'conservatives' and evangelicals. Rush Limbaugh -- remember him? He wasn't the first and the last, but no one penetrated into the culture like he did -- and then along came Fox. Soon to be followed by 'social media'. This is all knowable. There are historians who have devoted their careers to documenting all the aspects of the rise of lies and more lies and the strategies to destroy all parts of government that support the public good, while keeping down 'the others'. Rick Perlstein is only one of the better known ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perlstein Edited January 7 by Zorral Larry of the Lawn, Durckad, kissdbyfire and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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