Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 7 hours ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: Honestly that's a horrible selling point. My now mostly dead G35X was hard to keep below 30MPH and that was actually a problem. This is so much worse. If they do release something like this that has to be a special gear you switch into. Imagine that thing in a parking lot/ramp or even just trying to park it in general. It's worse than that. Modern sports and GT cars have gotten really out of hand power wise. I'm convinced that without the typical electronic intervention featured in modern cars (tailored torque curves, stability control, ABS, traction-control-that-you-can-turn-off-but-not-really, etc.) these vehicles would utterly undrivable. 0-60mph in under 1 second is almost 3 G's . It also likely means 0-100 mph in around 2.5-3.0 seconds. How much do you want to bet that's beyond the processing power and reaction times of a modern stability control system? Also, I think he's hoping people forget the specs they promised when they first took deposits on this car. i.e.: the 200 KWh battery *and* 4 seats. For reference, the F-150 Lightning comes with a 100 KWh pack. The optional embiggened pack is a mere 130KWh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: It's worse than that. Modern sports and GT cars have gotten really out of hand power wise. I'm convinced that without the typical electronic intervention featured in modern cars (tailored torque curves, stability control, ABS, traction-control-that-you-can-turn-off-but-not-really, etc.) these vehicles would utterly undrivable. 0-60mph in under 1 second is almost 3 G's . It also likely means 0-100 mph in around 2.5-3.0 seconds. How much do you want to bet that's beyond the processing power and reaction times of a modern stability control system? Also, I think he's hoping people forget the specs they promised when they first took deposits on this car. i.e.: the 200 KWh battery *and* 4 seats. For reference, the F-150 Lightning comes with a 100 KWh pack. The optional embiggened pack is a mere 130KWh. I'm not a gearhead or a mechanical engineer, but I'd like to think most people can see why this is a really bad idea. Even if you're the getaway driver during a bank robbery you wouldn't want that. Ludicrous Speed was a joke people. I am looking forward to test driving some newish cars in the next few weeks, but fuck what's being described here, Also, @Spockydog, can I get part of my 1% in advance? I'll buy Maggie a nice chew toy. Fair trade, right? Spockydog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impmk2 Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Not sure why you guys are talking about Elon's latest dribble. It's (as usual) almost certainly undeliverable gobshite, which he'll have to walk back (if/when) they finally release it. Under 1 second 0-100kph would be near 2x as fast an acceleration as the fastest production car right now. Cars are already massively massively grip limited, which is why on drag strips they use glue to literally hold the car to the surface so it can accelerate quickly. Unless he's developed magical tyres it just isn't going to happen. 1 hour ago, Deadlines? What Deadlines? said: 0-60mph in under 1 second is almost 3 G's . It also likely means 0-100 mph in around 2.5-3.0 seconds. How much do you want to bet that's beyond the processing power and reaction times of a modern stability control system? This is where the electrical drive train have a huge advantage. Lucid (and they're generally pretty transparent around their tech) claims they can poll traction 1000x per second, and then make adjustments to torque output on each motor 25x per second. They can put an individual motor on each wheel and independantly do this at each corner of the car. It's way, way over and above what's possible on a traditional internal combustion engine. 9 hours ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: Honestly that's a horrible selling point. My now mostly dead G35X was hard to keep below 30MPH and that was actually a problem. This is so much worse. If they do release something like this that has to be a special gear you switch into. Imagine that thing in a parking lot/ramp or even just trying to park it in general. It's an electrical drive train. Most EVs only have 1 gear. It's all drive by wire, the accelerator pedal isn't linked to anything but a computer. You just map the pedal in the most relaxed drive mode to only give 10% power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadlines? What Deadlines? Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Impmk2 said: This is where the electrical drive train have a huge advantage. Lucid (and they're generally pretty transparent around their tech) claims they can poll traction 1000x per second, and then make adjustments to torque output on each motor 25x per second. They can put an individual motor on each wheel and independantly do this at each corner of the car. It's way, way over and above what's possible on a traditional internal combustion engine. Never underestimate the ability of some dipshit with more money than talent to fuck things up. 1 hour ago, Impmk2 said: Under 1 second 0-100kph would be near 2x as fast an acceleration as the fastest production car right now. Cars are already massively massively grip limited, which is why on drag strips they use glue to literally hold the car to the surface so it can accelerate quickly. Unless he's developed magical tyres it just isn't going to happen. I was going to mention tires. All wheel drive will be a must for this kind of acceleration. Even then, how much heat would get driven into that tire carcass by accelerating a 1.5 ton car that hard? What happens if you repeat that more than twice? 1 hour ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: I am looking forward to test driving some newish cars in the next few weeks, but fuck what's being described here, I think my next car will probably be an older used car. I fucking despise most of the new stuff that's out there in my price range and I'm not buying an SUV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 12 Share Posted March 12 No way this was suicide. Underfoot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 It delights me, breakfasting in an ecologically conscious, Green, bakery, that it is located on Calle Lope de Vega, in Madrid's literary neighborhood, with house of Cervantes, libraries, bookstores, new, used and antiquarian. Delicious. Owned and run by young Turkish immigrants, this is the best tea I've drunk in years. maarsen and Tears of Lys 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorral Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Three days decompressing before going home. Slept 12 hours straight! which is more sleep than I got in four nights put together. Staying in an 18th C ducal palace, converted to an enviornmentally compliant hotel. It has not a ballroom, but two ballrooms, which could be in War and Peace. Spockydog, maarsen and Tears of Lys 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRider Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Redwood trees in the UK! I didn't know that. Giant redwoods - the world's largest trees - are flourishing in the UK and now even outnumber those found in their native range in California. The giants were first brought to the UK about 160 years ago, and a new study suggests they are growing at a similar rate to their US counterparts. An estimated 500,000 trees are in the UK compared to 80,000 in California. Giant redwoods: World’s largest trees 'thriving in UK' (bbc.com) Tears of Lys, Prince of the North and Spockydog 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A wilding Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, LongRider said: Redwood trees in the UK! I didn't know that. There are a couple within strolling distance of our house. You don't really notice them unless you look over the area from high ground, at which point they become obvious. Spockydog and LongRider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalbear Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 hours ago, LongRider said: Redwood trees in the UK! I didn't know that. Giant redwoods - the world's largest trees - are flourishing in the UK and now even outnumber those found in their native range in California. The giants were first brought to the UK about 160 years ago, and a new study suggests they are growing at a similar rate to their US counterparts. An estimated 500,000 trees are in the UK compared to 80,000 in California. Giant redwoods: World’s largest trees 'thriving in UK' (bbc.com) Look at those immigrant trees, taking English jobs Spockydog, Craving Peaches, LongRider and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 I met my first member of the forum tonight. Lady Fury is awesome. I'm getting my first tattoo in two months with a few more down the road. Glad she was honest about some things she thought were bad ideas. Tears of Lys, Buckwheat and Spockydog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spockydog Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 hours ago, Mr. Chatywin et al. said: I met my first member of the forum tonight. Lady Fury is awesome. I'm getting my first tattoo in two months with a few more down the road. Glad she was honest about some things she thought were bad ideas. I want to know more about the bad ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chatywin et al. Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, Spockydog said: I want to know more about the bad ideas. One was a hand tattoo of a dilophosaurus she quickly shot down, but said it would maybe be a cool shoulder tattoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 At school i was always taught that 1 was a prime number, now im being told its not. When did that happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltaran Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: At school i was always taught that 1 was a prime number, now im being told its not. When did that happen? 1 has never been prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 4 minutes ago, BigFatCoward said: At school i was always taught that 1 was a prime number, now im being told its not. When did that happen? When working with prime numbers in mathematics, having 1 as a prime causes problems. Also every prime has 1 and itself as divisors. 1 only has1 as a divisor. Without 2 divisors it isn't prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, Maltaran said: 1 has never been prime. I didn't say it was. I said when did schools stop teaching it? Or was my school just thick as fuck (we got 34% grade A-C so I know the answer to that one). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, maarsen said: When working with prime numbers in mathematics, having 1 as a prime causes problems. Also every prime has 1 and itself as divisors. 1 only has1 as a divisor. Without 2 divisors it isn't prime. The way we were taught was 'any number only divisible by itself or 1. So it qualified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maarsen Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 Just now, BigFatCoward said: The way we were taught was 'any number only divisible by itself or 1. So it qualified. Which makes 2 divisors. 1 has only itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 (edited) 6 minutes ago, maarsen said: Which makes 2 divisors. 1 has only itself. 1 is divisible by itself, or 1, is how we were taught. I've asked a few school friends and they are as shocked as me. I'm not misremembering. We were all taught 1 was a prime number. Is A still the first letter of the alphabet? What other bullshit am I walking around with in my head? And I was good at maths (I was the only person to get 100% in one of the exams for my GCSE's in our assessing board). Edited March 15 by BigFatCoward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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