polishgenius Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 33 minutes ago, Jussi said: A BELOVED CLASSIC—NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN TRADE PAPERBACK: Weird, I'm sure I've owned a trade paperback for 18 years (it's not impossible I'm mistaken since I've been in Germany for the last 12 of those and it hasn't, but I'm pretty sure it's a big chunky paperback). Unless they mean just in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Maybe this is to build excitement for Thorn of Emberlain? IlyaP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamjm Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 2 hours ago, polishgenius said: Weird, I'm sure I've owned a trade paperback for 18 years (it's not impossible I'm mistaken since I've been in Germany for the last 12 of those and it hasn't, but I'm pretty sure it's a big chunky paperback). Unless they mean just in the US. I have the UK trade paperback. I assume they are talking about the US market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 This is it, this time I'm all in, I will believe. Madame deVenoge and AncalagonTheBlack 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellert Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Sorry in advance, I have not followed the development of Lynch’s writing updates/development in detail after RoT (I started reading some time after it was published). So barring that I may be naive, but if his post is anything else than a soft confirmation that the fourth book is to be confirmed in a very short time, or at the minimum that the writing is on track with a very firm timeline for completion and release, then I am honestly very disappointed and will loose faith in any author update in the future. Because to me this response is very straight forward and binary, either a) you have a genuine and real belief in releasing your book, or b) you are deliberately misguiding to play on the hunger for release to promote something else. Feel free to enlightened me/argue, please, but to me there is really no middle ground here. And for what it is worth, I am a huge fan of Lynch, and LoLL is one of my favourite books. Even if I think that 2&3 are not as great, to me the series as a whole stands out as one of the better ones in fantasy and I really look forward to the continuation and conclusion and I am 100% rooting for Lynch to finish (at his own speed). Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxom 1974 Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 8 hours ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: Maybe this is to build excitement for Thorn of Emberlain? One could easily make that assumption. Hopefully it's true. Ser Scot A Ellison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jussi Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 hours ago, polishgenius said: Weird, I'm sure I've owned a trade paperback for 18 years (it's not impossible I'm mistaken since I've been in Germany for the last 12 of those and it hasn't, but I'm pretty sure it's a big chunky paperback). Unless they mean just in the US. Yes, this is the first American trade paperback edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 12 hours ago, Pellert said: Sorry in advance, I have not followed the development of Lynch’s writing updates/development in detail after RoT (I started reading some time after it was published). So barring that I may be naive, but if his post is anything else than a soft confirmation that the fourth book is to be confirmed in a very short time, or at the minimum that the writing is on track with a very firm timeline for completion and release, then I am honestly very disappointed and will loose faith in any author update in the future. Because to me this response is very straight forward and binary, either a) you have a genuine and real belief in releasing your book, or b) you are deliberately misguiding to play on the hunger for release to promote something else. Feel free to enlightened me/argue, please, but to me there is really no middle ground here. The complication in this situation is Lynch's mental health. Lynch is fully capable of writing a 400-500 page novel in under twelve months. In fact, he's often said that the bulk of his books have taken months to write rather than years, but he's then lost years in editing, rewriting and not doing anything at all due to a crippling mental block and inability to do so. He had a working draft of The Thorn of Emberlain in 2019, if not considerably earlier, and ended up with paralysis on just hitting the "send" button on it. The issue more seems to come up that when Lynch changes medication or makes some unexpectedly good progress for a while, he can suddenly be flooded with optimism and provide hugely positive updates and everything seems great, only for things to backslide and then go radio silent for a year or two. He made a similarly sweeping update a year or so ago, but this time noted it was accompanied by a major change in medication and a new approach to therapy. So far that seems to be holding more firmly, with him sending off some more short fiction for publication, completing work on three novellas he'd had on hold with Subterranean Press for a decade, and apparently completing revisions to The Thorn of Emberlain. Hopefully that continues. For that reason I treat a Lynch update with some caution, but am always happy to see him optimistic. His mental health battle is formidable, and carrying it out in public cannot be easy. Ser Scot A Ellison, Jerol, Poobah and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 I also think that, although not really our business how it affected him, it feels almost impossible that the accusations against him and Bear in 2020 didn't have some effect (especially since whether the 'grooming' allegations were true or not- I'm inclined to believe not for a few reasons, but you never know- it was a public airing out of problems in his marriage). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellert Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 18 hours ago, Werthead said: The complication in this situation is Lynch's mental health. Lynch is fully capable of writing a 400-500 page novel in under twelve months. In fact, he's often said that the bulk of his books have taken months to write rather than years, but he's then lost years in editing, rewriting and not doing anything at all due to a crippling mental block and inability to do so. He had a working draft of The Thorn of Emberlain in 2019, if not considerably earlier, and ended up with paralysis on just hitting the "send" button on it. The issue more seems to come up that when Lynch changes medication or makes some unexpectedly good progress for a while, he can suddenly be flooded with optimism and provide hugely positive updates and everything seems great, only for things to backslide and then go radio silent for a year or two. He made a similarly sweeping update a year or so ago, but this time noted it was accompanied by a major change in medication and a new approach to therapy. So far that seems to be holding more firmly, with him sending off some more short fiction for publication, completing work on three novellas he'd had on hold with Subterranean Press for a decade, and apparently completing revisions to The Thorn of Emberlain. Hopefully that continues. For that reason I treat a Lynch update with some caution, but am always happy to see him optimistic. His mental health battle is formidable, and carrying it out in public cannot be easy. Thanks! I knew of the mental illness to a certain degree, but not to the depth you described it here. Of course it is awful and I only wish Scott the best, regardless of what that is. The key point of my first point still stands though, but in view of your explanation it might come across as a bit harsh, so I’ll moderate it to that I then hope that at least the post is written “in honest and good faith at this point in time” that a release of ToE is upcoming in not too distant future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerol Posted February 5 Author Share Posted February 5 On 2/2/2024 at 7:03 PM, Pellert said: So barring that I may be naive, but if his post is anything else than a soft confirmation that the fourth book is to be confirmed in a very short time, or at the minimum that the writing is on track with a very firm timeline for completion and release, then I am honestly very disappointed and will loose faith in any author update in the future. Because to me this response is very straight forward and binary, either a) you have a genuine and real belief in releasing your book, or b) you are deliberately misguiding to play on the hunger for release to promote something else. Feel free to enlightened me/argue, please, but to me there is really no middle ground here. See the ongoing thread for Patrick Rothfuss for behavior b). Come for the misguiding, stay for the misdirection and outright lying. Pellert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhom Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Saw a Reddit post that showed a preorder date of this September. Dunno how reliable that would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rhom said: Saw a Reddit post that showed a preorder date of this September. Dunno how reliable that would be. I just saw a post by a YouTube "Book Tuber" who said Lynch will be publishing some novellas with stories set in the time period between his third and fourth novels, so perhaps in terms of these preorder date speculations some people are confusing the novellas with the fourth novel. Edited March 1 by Ormond add YouTube link Ser Scot A Ellison and Jerol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Rodrigo Belmonte II Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 GRRM, Rothfuss or Lynch guys ? Who’s gonna release first ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3CityApache Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 I wouldn't be totally shocked if none of them released anything anymore, but I really do hope at least Lynch does. Rhom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Patrek Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Unless it comes directly from Scott or his publishers, I wouldn't trust anything you find on the internet. Jerol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 At the moment I'd put money on Lynch delivering before GRRM or Rothfuss, and GRRM before Rothfuss. From the look of the updates on Patreon, JV Jones will beat all three of them. Madame deVenoge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ormond Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 On 3/6/2024 at 3:45 PM, Werthead said: At the moment I'd put money on Lynch delivering before GRRM or Rothfuss, and GRRM before Rothfuss. From the look of the updates on Patreon, JV Jones will beat all three of them. And I'd like to know if Clive Barker will ever finish the Abarat series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerol Posted March 10 Author Share Posted March 10 5 hours ago, Ormond said: And I'd like to know if Clive Barker will ever finish the Abarat series. Good news on that front https://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3803050/clive-barker-making-final-convention-appearances-to-focus-entirely-on-writing-heres-whats-coming-exclusive/ Ormond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madame deVenoge Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/6/2024 at 4:45 PM, Werthead said: At the moment I'd put money on Lynch delivering before GRRM or Rothfuss, and GRRM before Rothfuss. From the look of the updates on Patreon, JV Jones will beat all three of them. I’m a member of her Patreon, and it seems to me like she’s doing well. I hope that Endlords’ eventual publication will spark interest in her back catalogue and spur more sales of her previous books. Jerol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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