The Bard of Banefort Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Visually, it looks beautiful. My problem is that I still have no idea what the story is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFR Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, Corvinus85 said: I'm just wondering why spend so little time promoting what the title is supposed to mean. Like Ran said, they're promoting the substance or really lack of it. I feel at this point that the trailers are serving as a warning, so Amazon can say, hey, we kept telling you what to expect yet you decided to watch it anyway. We were sending out red flags left and right but you just wouldn't listen. Don't blame us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAFrelatedusername Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Ser Drewy said: I feel like Amazon are doing a pretty poor job of explaining what this story actually is. 1 hour ago, Ran said: On the contrary, I think they are doing a very good job of showing its substance. It is telling that Celebrimbor, who should be a major player in this story gets less attention than random Hobbit Harfoot #18. Seriously with their reluctance to show Annatar, the rumors that Sauron will not appear until the end of the first season, and the introduction of their oc villain Adar, it appears like the first season is going to be filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myrddin Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, The hairy bear said: Do they really believe that they can win the audience with aesthetics and brand name alone? They will certainly get people to tune in for the initial episodes based on brand name alone, yes. Past that? It's on them to earn it. Personally, I'm not that familiar with First or Second Age history other than very very broad strokes. Maybe I'll be able to enjoy the show more than others without the baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Corvinus85 said: I'm just wondering why spend so little time promoting what the title is supposed to mean. Like Ran said, they're promoting the substance or really lack of it. I wonder if @Werthead might be correct that the Rings may not even show up until the second season. It's weird, if you told me Amazon were making a Second Age show called Rings of Power I'd assume the Rings would be a more prominent feature in its promotion. Yet... they're basically absent. Celebrimbor has barely been focused on. I'd have felt confident that an image of him at his forge would be one of the first things we'd have seen from a show about the Second Age. But... nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Drewy Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Elrond and Gil-Galad clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ser Scot A Ellison Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 I’m getting “film Aragorn” vibes from the “Halbarad” character. Why Hobbits? Why? Meteor man is Gandalf thousands of years before he actually arrived… isn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvinus85 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Ser Scot A Ellison said: I’m getting “film Aragorn” vibes from the “Halbarad” character. Why Hobbits? Why? Meteor man is Gandalf thousands of years before he actually arrived… isn’t he? I'm hoping that Halbarad at least is not Dunedain but a Northman and they set up him as the ancestor of Eorl and perhaps founder of the kingdom of Rhovanion. That at least could work for me and it's a way to have Northmen in the story, too. (since we get the proto-hobbits as well) I'm 90% certain Meteor-Man is Gandalf, 8% another of the Istari, and 2% another Maia that will serve the role of an Istari in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryk Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 "Our hearts are bigger than our feet" So cringe. You really need to have a character say outright what Tolkien was able to show through storytelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFR Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Neil Gaiman just tweeted about his viewing of the first two episodes. It seems that he really enjoyed it. For a bit of positivity here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigFatCoward Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, IFR said: Neil Gaiman just tweeted about his viewing of the first two episodes. It seems that he really enjoyed it. For a bit of positivity here. Imagine that. Someone watching something before making their mind up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polishgenius Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Meh. Neil Gaiman is still in the post-coital glow of Sandman launching to massive success and acclaim, that's probably the dopamine talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farerb Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 He basically said it was better than The Silmarillion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFR Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 2 hours ago, farerb said: He basically said it was better than The Silmarillion. He went farther and said that it was good by being the opposite of The Silmarillion. 3 hours ago, BigFatCoward said: Imagine that. Someone watching something before making their mind up. We'll see. Maybe everyone will agree with Gaiman, maybe not. The marketing for the show has been awful in a hilarious way, and I have no problem mocking (with glee) the material that has been released so far. On its own terms it is quite deserving of mockery, as far as I'm concerned. Either way is a win. If the show turns out well, then I get another show to enjoy. If not, well, I confess that I'm not a fan of Bezos, so witnessing his billion dollar implosion would be a personal pleasure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I am wondering how many people are aware that Tolkien's publishers are owned by Rupert Murdoch and have been since 1989. So if you've bought the last five History of Middle-earth books, Beren & Luthien, The Children of Hurin, The Fall of Gondolin or the upcoming Fall of Numenor when they came out, or any Tolkien book of any kind (including reprints of LotR, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales) since 1989, you've given money to someone who is, at best, as bad as Bezos in being a predatory capitalist, if not considerably worse. Oh, interesting. I didn't know that: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 I'm not the hugest LotR's fan, but I don't get all of the hate this show is getting online? Is it the little to no experience the showrunners have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werthead Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 42 minutes ago, sifth said: I'm not the hugest LotR's fan, but I don't get all of the hate this show is getting online? Is it the little to no experience the showrunners have? A lot of people who never thought their teenage memorisation of the entirety of the Akallabeth would ever come in useful are suddenly flexing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IFR Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Werthead said: I am wondering how many people are aware that Tolkien's publishers are owned by Rupert Murdoch and have been since 1989. So if you've bought the last five History of Middle-earth books, Beren & Luthien, The Children of Hurin, The Fall of Gondolin or the upcoming Fall of Numenor when they came out, or any Tolkien book of any kind (including reprints of LotR, The Hobbit, The Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales) since 1989, you've given money to someone who is, at best, as bad as Bezos in being a predatory capitalist, if not considerably worse. I have a Prime membership for the shipping, so Bezos is getting my money either way. I do not predicate my enjoyment of art based on those who produce it. I do allow myself schadenfreude at any kind of misfortune people like Bezos (and Murdoch) are subject to, though. 1 hour ago, Werthead said: Oh, interesting. I didn't know that: I'm somehow not surprise. Between Gaiman and Martin, they seem to have some connection to virtually everyone in the speculative fiction world. 57 minutes ago, sifth said: I'm not the hugest LotR's fan, but I don't get all of the hate this show is getting online? Is it the little to no experience the showrunners have? I can only speak for myself. I do not enjoy the mindless blockbuster oriented nature in which movies and television shows are gravitating towards (largely due to franchises like Marvel and Star Wars). It's almost always intellectually devoid and creatively generic. All the advertising of Rings of Power has been of this category, which is suggestive that it is a show targeted for an audience who appreciates the lazy empty calorie fare that is so common. That's why it gets hate from me. I'm sure others have their own reasons for disliking what is being advertised, but we can certainly unite under the banner of derision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASOIAFrelatedusername Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, sifth said: I'm not the hugest LotR's fan, but I don't get all of the hate this show is getting online? Is it the little to no experience the showrunners have? Apparent disregard for the source material and utterly uminaginative approach to its adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sifth Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 43 minutes ago, Werthead said: A lot of people who never thought their teenage memorisation of the entirety of the Akallabeth would ever come in useful are suddenly flexing. I have no idea what that word means, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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